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I wish more people would do this. I do. That said, it only works if enough people do it and if the feedback actually gets back to the restaurant owners. I wou

I wish more people would do this. I do. That said, it only works if enough people do it and if the feedback actually gets back to the restaurant owners. I would love to see “had QR menu” as a label on Apple and Google Maps so that I’d know not to bother with the restaurant in the first place.

DANmode 3y ago
They'd never do this, because of their incentives to get people onto the Internet for everything. What % of pages would you guess load from a QR code without Google Analytics?
- iamdamian 3y ago
  I agree that on balance, they'd like the data. However, if people demand this, and one of the two (my vote would be Apple) responded to that, then I would think competitive edge would matter more than the marginal benefit of having menu browsing data. (After all, the restaurants and credit card companies already have your purchase data.)
  - DANmode 3y ago
    Is uh...Apple Maps usable these days? Not trying to start a bar fight, but I stopped paying attention early on when they were sending (easily misled?) people ways that didn't exist at their peril, and that sort of thing — I'm assuming that's all straightened out?
    - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
      (Not the person you asked.) I don’t use it for navigation but I don’t recall any times when I learned that it’s wrong while using it for information about local businesses. That should be enough for the “QR menu only” flag at any rate. (I only started using it the past 2-3 years, for what it’s worth. More to the point of your question, I would assume its quality of directions is at least “usable” given the accuracy of other things. Still an assumption.)
  - autoexec 3y ago
    Menu browsing data is just what they're limited to right now. What they really want is to use the information on your device to get data about you like your income level, your past purchase history, even your demographics, and use that data to set individual prices for you. That way when you order a cheeseburger they can charge you more than the person who ordered a cheeseburger sitting next to you. Discriminatory pricing is already used in some markets based on nothing more than what browser or OS you use. Apple/Iphone uses are sometimes charged more on the assumption that they have more money to spend. The amount of data collection going on gives them huge opportunities to go much much deeper and companies have been experimenting with it and trying to push the public into accepting it for many years. Right now, one of the biggest problems they have is that consumers (rightly) find discriminatory pricing offensive, but that's already shifted a lot with people mostly accepting that certain people should be given different prices than others because of who or what they are so long as it's presented as a reward for loyalty. Grocery stores that only offer "discounted" prices to loyalty card holders is one example the public has already swallowed. The push for people to use their own devices in order to see a price or even what is offered for sale isn't something they're going to stop unless we constantly push back stronger.

DANmode 3y ago

They'd never do this, because of their incentives to get people onto the Internet for everything. What % of pages would you guess load from a QR code without Google Analytics?

iamdamian 3y ago
I agree that on balance, they'd like the data. However, if people demand this, and one of the two (my vote would be Apple) responded to that, then I would think competitive edge would matter more than the marginal benefit of having menu browsing data. (After all, the restaurants and credit card companies already have your purchase data.)
- DANmode 3y ago
  Is uh...Apple Maps usable these days? Not trying to start a bar fight, but I stopped paying attention early on when they were sending (easily misled?) people ways that didn't exist at their peril, and that sort of thing — I'm assuming that's all straightened out?
  - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
    (Not the person you asked.) I don’t use it for navigation but I don’t recall any times when I learned that it’s wrong while using it for information about local businesses. That should be enough for the “QR menu only” flag at any rate. (I only started using it the past 2-3 years, for what it’s worth. More to the point of your question, I would assume its quality of directions is at least “usable” given the accuracy of other things. Still an assumption.)
- autoexec 3y ago
  Menu browsing data is just what they're limited to right now. What they really want is to use the information on your device to get data about you like your income level, your past purchase history, even your demographics, and use that data to set individual prices for you. That way when you order a cheeseburger they can charge you more than the person who ordered a cheeseburger sitting next to you. Discriminatory pricing is already used in some markets based on nothing more than what browser or OS you use. Apple/Iphone uses are sometimes charged more on the assumption that they have more money to spend. The amount of data collection going on gives them huge opportunities to go much much deeper and companies have been experimenting with it and trying to push the public into accepting it for many years. Right now, one of the biggest problems they have is that consumers (rightly) find discriminatory pricing offensive, but that's already shifted a lot with people mostly accepting that certain people should be given different prices than others because of who or what they are so long as it's presented as a reward for loyalty. Grocery stores that only offer "discounted" prices to loyalty card holders is one example the public has already swallowed. The push for people to use their own devices in order to see a price or even what is offered for sale isn't something they're going to stop unless we constantly push back stronger.