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Maybe I've worked in big tech and finance too long but most good companies (excluding companies looking specifically for C++ expertise) assume you're able to pi

Maybe I've worked in big tech and finance too long but most good companies (excluding companies looking specifically for C++ expertise) assume you're able to pick up whatever languages you need. Coding is the easy part of software engineering. With that said, there's obviously a gap between folks that are mainly just programming vs. folks that are engineering systems. And both personas have been lumped in together. The fundamentals that a good CS, math, and stats education teach you are invaluable when you actually have to build things that scale or work on difficult problems.

giantg2 3y ago
"The fundamentals that a good CS, math, and stats education teach you are invaluable" I agree. What I'm saying is a 2 year program would satisfy that. Basically 2 years of college is for learning non-domain related junk (health class from HS, music history, English proficiency from HS, etc). I mean the engineer and programmers get lumped together because there is no real separation today. Put "programmers" on a project designed by "engineers" is a disaster. Documentation and communication always leaves something to be desired. Not to mention everyone calls themselves an engineer. Also I work in finance IT.