I get where you're coming from as "just an engineer" but it still seems like the market would clear at some point without needing to berate people for not havin

I get where you're coming from as "just an engineer" but it still seems like the market would clear at some point without needing to berate people for not having enough "loyalty" (which is rational, management are not loyal to us). Maybe the answer is contracts that are like "We train you for one year, then employ you below-market for two years. If you want to leave that's fine, but you (or your new employer) either owe us for the training or have to pay us market-rate for the remainder of your contract." I know similar things happen in MLB contracts, for example. This is one of those things where a sector-wide Hollywood-style (or MLBPA-style) union would make these kinds of negotiations much simpler. It would also help with the obvious employer-side abuses those kinds of contracts would enable. But once we start talking about union power, we're a ways away from just letting the market clear.