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Mick West is perhaps the most popular UFO debunker, he is good faith but has a pretty large conflict of interest he has developed now given the stakes of any of
by gfodor 3y ago
Mick West is perhaps the most popular UFO debunker, he is good faith but has a pretty large conflict of interest he has developed now given the stakes of any of these phenomena being shown to be non human created technology. That said, this is an old post, so less of an issue and it can probably stand on its own. (It's also written before the UAP reports that have come out, which influence the way you ought to think about the disclosures the government has made.)
- jonathankoren 3y agoMy favorite post of his about these videos was when he simply worked the trigonometry shown on the FLIR display, and worked out that these things weren’t traveling nearly as fast as described.
- gfodor 3y agoThe problem is there does seem to be a selection bias problem, where Mick gets a lot of distribution on these kinds of thing, and people do not hear the subsequent refutations from true experts about flaws in his analysis. He speaks very authoritatively, often over his skis imo. He also has a tendency to overemphasize forensics against things like video in a way that just ignores completely the surrounding context.
- jonathankoren 3y agoDo you have an example of this? UFOs, like every grand conspiracy theory, attract bad faith proponents with a million whatabouts.
- Coldblackice 3y agoAlso curious for any links to Mick West refutations. I've found him to be methodical and well-thought, though occasionally "reaching", like his claim that the four F-18 fighter pilots all mistook the "tic-tac" actually being a balloon, or something to that effect.
- jonathankoren 3y agoIn all honesty, those tic tac videos are so blown out with zero definition, the object could literally be anything. And of course, eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable.
- carabiner 3y agoI read about how he met a prominent flat earther and had some really interesting takeaways from his conversation, namely saying, "She is not unintelligent." He seemed shockingly open-minded while fascinated more by the path of reasoning that leads to flat earth thinking. I wish I could find this again.