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Is there any proprietary firmware on these? If this is truly open, I'm excited, otherwise I do not care one bit. (Scrolling down the comments, I am honestly di

Is there any proprietary firmware on these? If this is truly open, I'm excited, otherwise I do not care one bit. (Scrolling down the comments, I am honestly disappointed that I am the only person asking this question. Or does everyone else already know and I'm just out of touch?)

stingraycharles 3y ago
Just look at the specs of their laptops, plenty of Intel etc hardware that have management engines and whatnot. Openness is not their (primary) goal, it’s about being able to upgrade and replace components of your laptop just as you are able to do with a desktop.
detaro 3y ago
> Or does everyone else already know and I'm just out of touch Sadly I think assuming a new x86-based system could possibly be "truly open" if it isn't a screaming headline-feature is kind of out of touch, yes.
justaj 3y ago
If it's not supported by Libreboot (yet?) then I'm afraid that it won't fit your (and my) criteria of open.
bo1024 3y ago
Don’t think so; you might want to look at Purism, which I think is quite a bit closer. https://puri.sm/ https://puri.sm/
codezero 3y ago
They never claim to be open in that blog post, and on their about page they only say the laptop is open for repair and upgrade.
sillystuff 3y ago
Maybe someday? I'd love to see this too. AMD to consider coreboot/Libreboot support for Ryzen [1] Although, the only Framework with Coreboot support is their Chromebook, which has to use Coreboot per Google. But, comments in this thread seem to indicate broader use of Coreboot may be possible from Framework, in the future [2] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13781408 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13781408 [2]https://community.frame.work/t/coreboot-on-the-framework-laptop/791/110?page=6 https://community.frame.work/t/coreboot-on-the-framework-lap...

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Is there any proprietary firmware on these? If this is truly open, I'm excited, otherwise I do not care one bit. (Scrolling down the comments, I am honestly di

by taraharris 3y ago

stingraycharles 3y ago
Just look at the specs of their laptops, plenty of Intel etc hardware that have management engines and whatnot. Openness is not their (primary) goal, it’s about being able to upgrade and replace components of your laptop just as you are able to do with a desktop.
detaro 3y ago
> Or does everyone else already know and I'm just out of touch Sadly I think assuming a new x86-based system could possibly be "truly open" if it isn't a screaming headline-feature is kind of out of touch, yes.
justaj 3y ago
If it's not supported by Libreboot (yet?) then I'm afraid that it won't fit your (and my) criteria of open.
bo1024 3y ago
Don’t think so; you might want to look at Purism, which I think is quite a bit closer. https://puri.sm/ https://puri.sm/
codezero 3y ago
They never claim to be open in that blog post, and on their about page they only say the laptop is open for repair and upgrade.
sillystuff 3y ago
Maybe someday? I'd love to see this too. AMD to consider coreboot/Libreboot support for Ryzen [1] Although, the only Framework with Coreboot support is their Chromebook, which has to use Coreboot per Google. But, comments in this thread seem to indicate broader use of Coreboot may be possible from Framework, in the future [2] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13781408 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13781408 [2]https://community.frame.work/t/coreboot-on-the-framework-laptop/791/110?page=6 https://community.frame.work/t/coreboot-on-the-framework-lap...