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> Is C++ going away soon? Or is it holding steady and even growing? How can someone objectively know either way? No. It's not going away anytime soon, but you

> Is C++ going away soon? Or is it holding steady and even growing? How can someone objectively know either way? No. It's not going away anytime soon, but you can look at high-performance languages that are gaining in popularity, and that may point to change in the future. TIOBE isn't perfect, but it's a good indicator of interest, and Rust and Go seem to continue to gain popularity. Interestingly, and related to this article, Fortran has moved up from #31 to #20 on TIOBE's index, which really does speak to the importance of a math-optimized, high performance, compiled language. Another interesting change is MATLAB moving up from #20 to #14.

adgjlsfhk1 3y ago
for contrast, tiobe also believes visual basic classic (a language which hasn't been supported since 2008) is also in the top 20
- ethbr0 3y ago
  Having seen banking stacks, I'm inclined to believe TIOBE.
- PLenz 3y ago
  Most programming is not the kind programming you see talked about on HN. VB is still huge in legacy stacks.
  - adgjlsfhk1 3y ago
    right, but how much of that code is using a version of the language that hasn't been supported for 15 years? according to tiobe the answer is more than the amount of bash,powershell, and perl put together (and the amount is dramatically increasing)
westurner 3y ago
TIOBE index is rivaled by the annual Stack Overflow Developer Survey in some regards https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2022/#technology-most-popular-technologies https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2022/#technology-most-popula... : > Most popular technologies This year, we're comparing the popular technologies across three different groups: All respondents, Professional Developers, and those that are learning to code. Most popular technologies > Programming, scripting, and markup languages The Top 500 Green500 (and the TechEmpower Web Framework benchmarks) are also great resources for estimating what people did this past year; what are the "BigE" of our models in terms of water, kwh of [directly or PPA-offset] sourced clean energy.
pjmlp 3y ago
Rust and Go still have a lot to catch up in HPC though.

adgjlsfhk1 3y ago

for contrast, tiobe also believes visual basic classic (a language which hasn't been supported since 2008) is also in the top 20

ethbr0 3y ago
Having seen banking stacks, I'm inclined to believe TIOBE.
PLenz 3y ago
Most programming is not the kind programming you see talked about on HN. VB is still huge in legacy stacks.
- adgjlsfhk1 3y ago
  right, but how much of that code is using a version of the language that hasn't been supported for 15 years? according to tiobe the answer is more than the amount of bash,powershell, and perl put together (and the amount is dramatically increasing)

westurner 3y ago

TIOBE index is rivaled by the annual Stack Overflow Developer Survey in some regards https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2022/#technology-most-popular-technologies https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2022/#technology-most-popula... : > Most popular technologies This year, we're comparing the popular technologies across three different groups: All respondents, Professional Developers, and those that are learning to code. Most popular technologies > Programming, scripting, and markup languages The Top 500 Green500 (and the TechEmpower Web Framework benchmarks) are also great resources for estimating what people did this past year; what are the "BigE" of our models in terms of water, kwh of [directly or PPA-offset] sourced clean energy.

pjmlp 3y ago

Rust and Go still have a lot to catch up in HPC though.