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> And I have high confidence they will do just that. Let us put your confidence to the litmus test: 1. What is the legal status of Puerto Rico? 2. Is it a St

> And I have high confidence they will do just that. Let us put your confidence to the litmus test: 1. What is the legal status of Puerto Rico? 2. Is it a State in USA or a Colony of USA? 3. Are Constitutional Rights defined in US Constitution applicable to residents of Puerto Rico? 4. Do they have voting representation in the US Congress? > We can ask USA to leave and take their soldiers with them. Good luck with that!

nocoiner 3y ago
1. It’s an organized unincorporated territory of the United States. 2. It is neither a state nor a colony (it is an organized, unincorporated territory of the United States). 3. Citizens of Puerto Rico are American citizens, so yes. The existence of the insular cases doesn’t negate that - there are other categories of U.S. citizens who don’t receive the full protection of the constitution. 4. They do not. If and when Puerto Rico becomes a state, they will.
- shri_krishna 3y ago
  1. > organized unincorporated territory Is basically a nice way of saying it is a Colony. Fact is that it is a Colony. "Unincorporated territory" is a BS term created out of thin air to save the US Government from obvious criticisms. [1] If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. In this case the duck is Colonization. 2. Read 1 above 3. Those "other categories of U.S. citizens" who don't receive the full protection of the Constitution have "opted" for it (for example: members of the military are subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which imposes certain restrictions on their free speech, assembly, and association rights to maintain good order and discipline within the military - however, this is an "opt in" to have individual Rights restricted). They were not "born into it". Residents of Puerto Rico on the other hand are not given the full protection of the Constitution primarily based on where they are born. That is not equality by any means. 4. Exactly. And there was no choice given to Puerto Rico residents if they want to be part of the US or not. Since technically, Puerto Rico was colonized by Spain and then colonized by USA, it hasn't had a referendum asking if people want to remain with US or not. So currently, they are neither here nor there but hanging in between. Neither a "fully incorporated state" of USA, nor a completely free, independent State. Classic characteristic of a Colony. [1]: https://ccrjustice.org/home/blog/2021/10/20/colony-colony-colony-puerto-rico-and-courts#:~:text=Puerto%20Rico's%20colonial%20status%20dates,after%20the%20Spanish%2DAmerican%20War https://ccrjustice.org/home/blog/2021/10/20/colony-colony-co....

nocoiner 3y ago

1. It’s an organized unincorporated territory of the United States. 2. It is neither a state nor a colony (it is an organized, unincorporated territory of the United States). 3. Citizens of Puerto Rico are American citizens, so yes. The existence of the insular cases doesn’t negate that - there are other categories of U.S. citizens who don’t receive the full protection of the constitution. 4. They do not. If and when Puerto Rico becomes a state, they will.

shri_krishna 3y ago
1. > organized unincorporated territory Is basically a nice way of saying it is a Colony. Fact is that it is a Colony. "Unincorporated territory" is a BS term created out of thin air to save the US Government from obvious criticisms. [1] If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. In this case the duck is Colonization. 2. Read 1 above 3. Those "other categories of U.S. citizens" who don't receive the full protection of the Constitution have "opted" for it (for example: members of the military are subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which imposes certain restrictions on their free speech, assembly, and association rights to maintain good order and discipline within the military - however, this is an "opt in" to have individual Rights restricted). They were not "born into it". Residents of Puerto Rico on the other hand are not given the full protection of the Constitution primarily based on where they are born. That is not equality by any means. 4. Exactly. And there was no choice given to Puerto Rico residents if they want to be part of the US or not. Since technically, Puerto Rico was colonized by Spain and then colonized by USA, it hasn't had a referendum asking if people want to remain with US or not. So currently, they are neither here nor there but hanging in between. Neither a "fully incorporated state" of USA, nor a completely free, independent State. Classic characteristic of a Colony. [1]: https://ccrjustice.org/home/blog/2021/10/20/colony-colony-colony-puerto-rico-and-courts#:~:text=Puerto%20Rico's%20colonial%20status%20dates,after%20the%20Spanish%2DAmerican%20War https://ccrjustice.org/home/blog/2021/10/20/colony-colony-co....