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It's not like everyone can benefit from new features thrown out by browser vendors every two minutes so what is the problem? Stuff stays around for a while. If

by bwarp 15y ago

It's not like everyone can benefit from new features thrown out by browser vendors every two minutes so what is the problem? Stuff stays around for a while. If you want to reach your userbase, you use the common subset of functionality. Everyone pushes features galore these days to the point no-one knows what "HTML" is objectively defined as. People do know what subset works consistently across all browsers though, which Firefox supports reliably. As for Firefox's UI - they maintain consistency between platforms. Apple like to throw absolutely horrid curve balls every OS release and change just about everything for the sake of some misfeature they decided to make their users suffer (scrollbars in Lion being one of them). Also TBH compared to the ABI stability of Windows and Linux, OSX is a pile of shit to develop for so things are going to take time if you have to sync a lot of code across a lot of platforms. If they didn't bother - so what? At least your browser world didn't cave in due an OS release. Regarding the whinge about scroll bars. I'm sitting on a Windows 7 machine at the moment and the scrollbars work the same as they did 16 years ago i.e. how I expect them to work and consistently with everything else on the machine. New scrollbars is not a feature - it's an annoyance.

Zirro 15y ago
"New scrollbars is not a feature - it's an annoyance." It's called innovation, and I'm glad it's still happening.
- bwarp 15y ago
  Innovation? Bullshit. Innovation is improvement, not change for the sake of change. It's not an improvement.
  - Zirro 15y ago
    But it isn't "change for the sake of change". Not having to see the scrollbars all the time makes the web a better experience to me, and it's very useful in small spaces. Finally, it can be changed back in the settings and become an always visible scrollbar, if that's what a user prefers. It's a win for most people, and the few like you who have a hard time adapting to changes can switch back.

by bwarp 15y ago

Zirro 15y ago

"New scrollbars is not a feature - it's an annoyance." It's called innovation, and I'm glad it's still happening.

bwarp 15y ago
Innovation? Bullshit. Innovation is improvement, not change for the sake of change. It's not an improvement.
- Zirro 15y ago
  But it isn't "change for the sake of change". Not having to see the scrollbars all the time makes the web a better experience to me, and it's very useful in small spaces. Finally, it can be changed back in the settings and become an always visible scrollbar, if that's what a user prefers. It's a win for most people, and the few like you who have a hard time adapting to changes can switch back.