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# Kagi Orion I encourage HN readers on MacOS to consider Kagi's excellent Orion browser: https://browser.kagi.com/ https://browser.kagi.com/ It has sidebar t
by Terretta 4y ago
# Kagi Orion
I encourage HN readers on MacOS to consider Kagi's excellent Orion browser:
https://browser.kagi.com/ https://browser.kagi.com/
It has sidebar tab contexts (as hierarchical tab sessions), and several other of the features this author is excited about.
# Safari Ventura / iOS 16
For that matter, so does Safari on Ventura and iOS 16.
I also encourage new-to-Mac users to try using Safari's sidebar mode coupled with saved and sync'd tab groups, where an unnamed / unsaved set of tabs are in the anonymous group at the top, then use the saved groups the way the author describes. By sticking with Safari, you gain benefits of the private/anonymized browsing features (iCloud "Private Relay") not available in Arc or most others besides Tor. I consider this strictly superior to VPNs if you are trying to swim less in the advertising dragnet.
For me Safari works best with my workflow across devices when I both use the sidebar and change Safari preferences to reopen with all tabs from prior session (or all tabs except private).
For "profiles" I mostly use Safari in private mode with a password manager to make logging in as whichever account frictionless. This makes profiled sessions discrete and disposable.
- barkerja 4y agoSafari is my primary browser, but I do love some of the UI/UX things Arc is doing. But it's not enough to pry me from Safari, largely due to just how engrained in the iOS ecosystem I am (Apple Pay, Passkeys, Login with Apple, etc.) My hope for Safari in iOS 17 / macOS 14 is allowing tab groups to be sandboxed (similar to profiles in Arc, or containers in Firefox).
- ssbash 4y agoSafari doesn’t offer a full implementation of vertical tabs. It’s still not possible to hide the horizontal tab bar. I’ve also found Safari’s vertical tabs to lag behind the state of the horizontal tabs. I like Orion and Arc. Both browsers have good vertical tabs implementations. I like some their other features, but I would prefer to use Safari full time.