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> I refuse to use Chrome-based browsers just to keep things non-monocultural on the web. Even though I do know it's a losing battle. It was a losing battle to

by JadeNB 4y ago

> I refuse to use Chrome-based browsers just to keep things non-monocultural on the web. Even though I do know it's a losing battle. It was a losing battle to make anything other than Internet Explorer a first-class citizen on the web—until the alternatives became so much better that users and developers switched because they wanted to, not because they should. (Which is to say, keep up the fight—today's it a Google monopoly, but people do look at their usage stats, and a minuscule percentage using a non-Chrome browser is still better than 0.)

peatmoss 4y ago
I remember the bad old days of IE dominance. For this reason I’m on Firefox at work and home. I don’t want to go back.
- trelane 4y ago
  Too bad Chromium is open source instead of Free Software. Seems like it's spawning a number of incompatible and sometimes user-hostile forks.
joshmanders 4y ago
I'm really on the fence because I don't want a Google owned web, but at the same time, IMHO Chromium is the superior browser engine out there. I'd like to see it be pulled out of their control (donated by them willingly) and put into maybe like a browser foundation where all major browsers that are built on top of it vote and get a say in how it goes, just like most foundations. I'd rather we have a single unified web experience than hacking around various browser engines to display on our sites. Browsers should just be skins over this unified experience to add their own quirks they want, be it Google login shit or Microsoft's shit or even Brave's crypto shit.
- em-bee 4y ago
  even if chromium was freed from google, that would not be good enough. code-monoculture is dangerous. we really need multiple implementations of widely used applications to reduce the risk of exploits that would affect everyone. that goes for browsers, smtp or dns servers and anything else that is publicly accessible. (browsers are "accessible" through the websites we visit) i am with the top poster of this subthread. i absolutely refuse to use anything chrome based to avoid furthering a monoculture.
- JohnFen 4y ago
  > Browsers should just be skins over this unified experience to add their own quirks they want Oh, no. Please no.

by JadeNB 4y ago

peatmoss 4y ago

I remember the bad old days of IE dominance. For this reason I’m on Firefox at work and home. I don’t want to go back.

trelane 4y ago
Too bad Chromium is open source instead of Free Software. Seems like it's spawning a number of incompatible and sometimes user-hostile forks.

joshmanders 4y ago

I'm really on the fence because I don't want a Google owned web, but at the same time, IMHO Chromium is the superior browser engine out there. I'd like to see it be pulled out of their control (donated by them willingly) and put into maybe like a browser foundation where all major browsers that are built on top of it vote and get a say in how it goes, just like most foundations. I'd rather we have a single unified web experience than hacking around various browser engines to display on our sites. Browsers should just be skins over this unified experience to add their own quirks they want, be it Google login shit or Microsoft's shit or even Brave's crypto shit.

em-bee 4y ago
even if chromium was freed from google, that would not be good enough. code-monoculture is dangerous. we really need multiple implementations of widely used applications to reduce the risk of exploits that would affect everyone. that goes for browsers, smtp or dns servers and anything else that is publicly accessible. (browsers are "accessible" through the websites we visit) i am with the top poster of this subthread. i absolutely refuse to use anything chrome based to avoid furthering a monoculture.
JohnFen 4y ago
> Browsers should just be skins over this unified experience to add their own quirks they want Oh, no. Please no.