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So much for the "but Microsoft is a new company now". Remember "Microsoft loves open source" phrase from just few years ago? Guess what, Ike also loved Tina.
by ranting-moth 3y ago
So much for the "but Microsoft is a new company now".
Remember "Microsoft loves open source" phrase from just few years ago? Guess what, Ike also loved Tina.
- croes 3y agoThey love OpenSource to train Copilot.
- alkonaut 3y agoI always saw it as Microsoft is clearly two (or more) companies now. Some of those companies are very much what Microsoft was always like. Some others aren't at all like microsoft in anything but name.
- tommica 3y agoThat might not be a good way to look at it, there might be some people that want to just deliver some good products, but the company itself is not something that should be given the benefit because of those few employees. Microsoft == Microsoft
- capableweb 3y agoThat might be a useful point of view if you happen to work at GitHub and you don't really want to wake up to the fact that you actually work for Microsoft now. But for anyone else, everything Microsoft owns is Microsoft, and they'll use the products and properties they owned to further the goal of Microsoft, which is maximizing shareholder profits, just like any other public company.
- worrycue 3y ago> just like any other public company Except way more mercenary. Companies compete like boxers in a ring. You win some, you lose some. MS is the boxer who would hit below the belt if no one is looking and will try to main/kill you if they can. https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=MacBasic.txt https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=MacBasic.txt
- capableweb 3y ago> maximizing shareholder profits, just like any other public company Show me one of these big technology companies that doesn't act to benefit their shareholders? Microsoft is Google is Apple is Amazon. They're all the same internally. The only difference is their optics when you're looking at them as an outsider. But really, they all work toward the same goal, increasing their stock price.
- worrycue 3y agoYou replying to the right person?
- capableweb 3y agoYes, you said that Microsoft is "just like any other public company" but "Except way more mercenary". I'm saying that no, Microsoft is just like the others. They're all like that. All of them would hit below the belt if the risk/reward calculation is correct for shareholders.
- worrycue 3y agoSurprisingly, most of them don't, not to the level Microsoft does at least. Can you give an example of another company as mercenary as Microsoft? P.S. The Halloween Documents give a good overview of how Microsoft thinks.
- rightbyte 3y ago> Show me one of these big technology companies that doesn't act to benefit their shareholders? The owners seems to be in a constant power struggle with executives and management. Also, future to be shareholder are ripped off by current. I companies would focus on (long term) profitability many of their problems would be solved.
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- aaaronic 3y agoOr more, indeed!
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- AraceliHarker 3y agoRecall that Microsoft initially tried to make the hot reload feature of .NET 6 available only in Visual Studio. Their 3E strategy continues to this day.
- Spivak 3y agoI feel people just use EEE to mean anything bad MS does whether it makes any sense at all. Having exclusive features in a product they would prefer you to use because it makes them more money isn't EEE.
- SahAssar 3y agoYou are saying they are 3E:ing their own product? It sounds like what you are describing is a lot closer to open-core.
- weberer 3y agoWho are Ike and Tina?
- ayewo 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ike_%26_Tina_Turner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ike_%26_Tina_Turner