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If shit hits the fan and Microsoft gets sued for Anti Competitive behaviour (again) I suspect their main defence would be: Google doesn't even let users uninsta

If shit hits the fan and Microsoft gets sued for Anti Competitive behaviour (again) I suspect their main defence would be: Google doesn't even let users uninstall their apps and apple doesn't even let users install other browser.

dubcanada 3y ago
By uninstall their apps I assume you mean play service? In which case you can you just need root. Same as you can’t uninstall core Microsoft services. Apple not allowing other browsers is a bit much…
- isanjay 3y ago
  I can't uninstall Google apps in my Android phone YouTube, Gmail etc.
  - aembleton 3y ago
    Have you rooted it?
    - isanjay 3y ago
      No but rooting is not straight forward is it ?
    - makeitdouble 3y ago
      Rooting a phone will lock you out of most financial and secure NFC applications. It can be a no brainer depending on your life style (I mean, some people are trying to get back to dumb phones, so why not), I personally see it as big nope.
- worrycue 3y ago
  > Apple not allowing other browsers is a bit much… Apple is paranoid about being dependent on other companies. If Chrome becomes a "must have" Google will have leverage over them by threatening to pull Chrome from the iPhone. They have been burned badly before: https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=MacBasic.txt https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=MacBasic.txt Instead of letting that happen, they use the iPhone's market share to push an alternative they control and pressure developers to support it (with its market share). Google is already using such tactics against Android phone makers. They keep them in line by threatening to not license them their services.
  - devsda 3y ago
    > He (Gates) knew that Donn's Basic was way ahead of Microsoft's, so, as a condition for agreeing to renew Applesoft, he demanded that Apple abandon MacBasic, buying it from Apple for the price of $1, and then burying it. Not exactly EEE, but I see where the inspiration comes from. I always thought the mistrust of MSFT in the community started mainly because of how it pushed IE and its Windows OEM licensing terms, but it goes far beyond that.
FeistySkink 3y ago
I don't use Windows, but can you fully uninstall Defender (or whatever it's called) in Windows 10/11, never have malicious software something scanner or updates run automatically?
- Karunamon 3y ago
  Only with severe hacking and/or enterprise management via group policy.

dubcanada 3y ago

By uninstall their apps I assume you mean play service? In which case you can you just need root. Same as you can’t uninstall core Microsoft services. Apple not allowing other browsers is a bit much…

isanjay 3y ago
I can't uninstall Google apps in my Android phone YouTube, Gmail etc.
- aembleton 3y ago
  Have you rooted it?
  - isanjay 3y ago
    No but rooting is not straight forward is it ?
  - makeitdouble 3y ago
    Rooting a phone will lock you out of most financial and secure NFC applications. It can be a no brainer depending on your life style (I mean, some people are trying to get back to dumb phones, so why not), I personally see it as big nope.
worrycue 3y ago
> Apple not allowing other browsers is a bit much… Apple is paranoid about being dependent on other companies. If Chrome becomes a "must have" Google will have leverage over them by threatening to pull Chrome from the iPhone. They have been burned badly before: https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=MacBasic.txt https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=MacBasic.txt Instead of letting that happen, they use the iPhone's market share to push an alternative they control and pressure developers to support it (with its market share). Google is already using such tactics against Android phone makers. They keep them in line by threatening to not license them their services.
- devsda 3y ago
  > He (Gates) knew that Donn's Basic was way ahead of Microsoft's, so, as a condition for agreeing to renew Applesoft, he demanded that Apple abandon MacBasic, buying it from Apple for the price of $1, and then burying it. Not exactly EEE, but I see where the inspiration comes from. I always thought the mistrust of MSFT in the community started mainly because of how it pushed IE and its Windows OEM licensing terms, but it goes far beyond that.

FeistySkink 3y ago

I don't use Windows, but can you fully uninstall Defender (or whatever it's called) in Windows 10/11, never have malicious software something scanner or updates run automatically?

Karunamon 3y ago
Only with severe hacking and/or enterprise management via group policy.