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FBI Bureau Supervisor Arrested in Connection with Jan 6th Capitol Riot

51 points by scrum-treats 3y ago

paulpauper 3y ago
still making arrests. What they are doing is reviewing every second of footage they can find, cross referencing every possible angle from video and going through all social media and connections. In days following jan 6th, all social networks and smaller tube sites were harvested for jan 6th footage and stored on database, which is still being reviewed. Looking for distinguishing features like hats, masks, etc. here you can see the cap matches https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvKfSYdXoAAYdU9.png https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvKfSYdXoAAYdU9.png https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-560w,f_auto,q_auto:best/rockcms/2023-05/230502-Jared-Wise-capitol-arrest-snip-ac-806p-2b39bb.jpg https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-560w,f...
- boeingUH60 3y ago
  American democracy remains strong. Turns out that if you try to subvert it, the law will ram you like a trailer.
  - ModernMech 3y ago
    The foot soldiers are getting rammed by the law. Yet, the generals are still walking free. The insurrectionist leader is running for President again and getting interviewed by CNN. Democracy is still under threat.
    - peepeepoopoo5 3y ago
      [flagged]
      - ModernMech 3y ago
        Care to reframe your question as an argument? I don’t see the relevance. Sorry for feeding the trolls but I thought there was a point in there.
        peepeepoopoo5 3y ago
        [flagged]
      - petee 3y ago
        Remember when the right seceded from the United States, killed 360000 citizens, and still wave that flag without any consequences whatsoever?
        peepeepoopoo5 3y ago
        [flagged]
        aww_dang 3y ago
        Where do you stand on the right of self-determination?
    - aninteger 3y ago
      I don't necessarily disagree with you but on the other hand, we gotta start somewhere, and why not with the low hanging fruit?
      - ModernMech 3y ago
        Yes, but then again… it’s 2023, and this happened in 2021 in broad daylight, in front of us all. We had an impeachment which proved the point, a bipartisan investigation that proved the point — Donald Trump was responsible for Jan 6. Now it’s in the hands of a special counsel who I hope will do his duty, but so many have withered before. I guess my point is, going after the low hanging fruit is all the criminal justice system is able to do. I look forward to the day my mind is changed.
        asimpletune 3y ago
        Ultimately it'll happen if there's enough evidence to prosecute. I think one thing we're learning as a democracy is that the law has to be applied fairly to everyone. Just think about how damning the invasion of Iraq has been. It would be a totally different narrative if Bush and co. were properly investigated for their role in potentially lying about the invasion. The issue is that these lessons move at the speed of democracy, which is quite slow, and it's fundamentally a political process at that. Therefore, it's up to voters and that takes time and access to information. On the other hand, I'm not aware of a better way to do things.
  - 0zemp2c 3y ago
    America's democracy was subverted loooong ago, its called Wall Street...they figured it out - when you write the laws, you don't need to worry about breaking the law but keep thinking you are standing guard arresting some rednecks keep your credit score up! compliance is important the system is so thoroughly subverted that yes, voting is a waste of time...its amusing to watch the lemmings put the little "I Voted!!" sticker on their shirts like it matters...
    - grey05 3y ago
      [dead]
    - boeingUH60 3y ago
      This is cynical nonsense. Sure, Wall Street is so in charge that government policies of recent years have contributed to a wide slump in the markets. Why didn't they use that control to benefit themselves? Sure, there's corruption in Wall Street. But if you believe they write the laws, then I have some penny stocks and SPACs from Chamath Palihapitiya to sell you.
noduerme 3y ago
Living in Bend does weird things to people.
im3w1l 3y ago
> “Yeah, f--- them! Yeah, kill ’em! Kill ’em! Kill ’em! Kill ’em!” So he was so stupid that he did the agent provocateur thing without being one?
- aww_dang 3y ago
  The NYT, WashPo and other mainstream outlets claim that the alleged presence of agent provocateurs is either a, "right-wing conspiracy theory" or a, "alt-right conspiracy theory". Take your pick of scare words. Would they lie?
nova22033 3y ago
> FBI says former agent arrested over Jan. 6 called officers Nazis and encouraged mob to ‘kill ’em’ Why did you change the title?
- scrum-treats 3y ago
  To be more reportative and less emphatic, I suppose. Nevertheless, you are correct. The headline does read that a former FBI supervisor named Jared L. Wise called Capitol police officers "Nazis" and encouraged the mob [ of actual Nazis... ] to "kill 'em." The article goes on to state that "Federal authorities have arrested at least 1,000 people in connection with the riot on Jan. 6, 2021, including multiple current and former law enforcement officers. Shortly after the attack, a top FBI official warned that many within the bureau were 'sympathetic' to the mob." According to DOJ[1], the FBI's major priorities are to: - Protect the United States from terrorist attack. [FAIL: Jan 6th Capitol riot] - Protect the U.S. against foreign intelligence, espionage, and cyber operations. [FAIL: Russian and Chinese espionage + cyber operations] - Protect the United States against cyber-based attacks and high-technology crimes. [FAIL: [2]] - Combat significant cybercriminal activity. [FAIL: [2]] - Combat public corruption at all levels. [FAIL: Russian and Chinese espionage + cyber operations; Facebook + Cambridge Analytica] - Protect civil rights. [FAIL: Jan 6th Capitol riot] - Combat transnational criminal enterprises. [FAIL: Trump family; Epstein] - Combat significant white-collar crime. [FAIL: Trump family] - Combat significant violent crime. [FAIL: Jan 6th Capitol riot] [1]https://www.justice.gov/doj/organization-mission-and-functions-manual-federal-bureau-investigation https://www.justice.gov/doj/organization-mission-and-functio... [2]https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-scrambles-assess-damage-russia-linked-us-government/story?id=74780271 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-scrambles-assess-damage-...
  - nmrtxg 3y ago
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  - scrum-treats 3y ago
    Not sure why this is downvoted, as there are actual credible citations.
Gibbon1 3y ago
Imagine blowing your government pension over this.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  Not the first government employee, including law enforcement or military members, arrested in connection with it.
WeylandYutani 3y ago
So the US has decided that it is a riot now not a coup attempt? Can't handle the truth? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Spanish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Spanish_coup_d%27%C3%A9... Nobody in Spain denies this. Wonder why America is different.
- aww_dang 3y ago
  From your linked article, first paragraph: >Lieutenant-Colonel Antonio Tejero led 200 armed Civil Guard officers into the Congress of Deputies during the vote to elect a President of the Government. The officers held the parliamentarians and ministers hostage for 18 hours, during which time King Juan Carlos I denounced the coup in a televised address, calling for rule of law and the democratic government to continue. The royal address fatally undermined the coup. Though shots were fired, the hostage-takers surrendered the next morning without killing anyone. I really do not see the equivalence here at all. Only through a highly partisan stretch could a professional gymnast make this leap.
  - WeylandYutani 3y ago
    It was not a spontaneous outburst everything was preplanned and orchestrated by Trump and co but unfortunately we will have to leave it to future historians not the FBI.
- DoItToMe81 3y ago
  Peacefully occupying a building and leaving on your own accord is not a coup. If you think this is comparable to armed groups lead by the military occupying parliament and threatening to murder the people inside if demands are not met, I have no idea what to say.
  - ModernMech 3y ago
    Peaceful? We all saw what happened in real time. What I saw was not peaceful. If it was peaceful, why did they bring (and use) so many weapons? Why did Rudy Giuliani call for “trial by combat” at the Ellipse Rally? Why did so many people get injured? Why was so much damage done? Why did people die?
scrum-treats 3y ago
Not sure why this post is flagged, while all these other FBI-related posts remain unflagged: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=fbi&sort=byDate&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....

51 points by scrum-treats 3y ago

still making arrests. What they are doing is reviewing every second of footage they can find, cross referencing every possible angle from video and going through all social media and connections. In days following jan 6th, all social networks and smaller tube sites were harvested for jan 6th footage and stored on database, which is still being reviewed. Looking for distinguishing features like hats, masks, etc. here you can see the cap matches https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvKfSYdXoAAYdU9.png https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvKfSYdXoAAYdU9.png https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-560w,f_auto,q_auto:best/rockcms/2023-05/230502-Jared-Wise-capitol-arrest-snip-ac-806p-2b39bb.jpg https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-560w,f...

boeingUH60 3y ago
American democracy remains strong. Turns out that if you try to subvert it, the law will ram you like a trailer.
- ModernMech 3y ago
  The foot soldiers are getting rammed by the law. Yet, the generals are still walking free. The insurrectionist leader is running for President again and getting interviewed by CNN. Democracy is still under threat.
  - peepeepoopoo5 3y ago
    [flagged]
    - ModernMech 3y ago
      Care to reframe your question as an argument? I don’t see the relevance. Sorry for feeding the trolls but I thought there was a point in there.
      - peepeepoopoo5 3y ago
        [flagged]
    - petee 3y ago
      Remember when the right seceded from the United States, killed 360000 citizens, and still wave that flag without any consequences whatsoever?
      - peepeepoopoo5 3y ago
        [flagged]
      - aww_dang 3y ago
        Where do you stand on the right of self-determination?
  - aninteger 3y ago
    I don't necessarily disagree with you but on the other hand, we gotta start somewhere, and why not with the low hanging fruit?
    - ModernMech 3y ago
      Yes, but then again… it’s 2023, and this happened in 2021 in broad daylight, in front of us all. We had an impeachment which proved the point, a bipartisan investigation that proved the point — Donald Trump was responsible for Jan 6. Now it’s in the hands of a special counsel who I hope will do his duty, but so many have withered before. I guess my point is, going after the low hanging fruit is all the criminal justice system is able to do. I look forward to the day my mind is changed.
      - asimpletune 3y ago
        Ultimately it'll happen if there's enough evidence to prosecute. I think one thing we're learning as a democracy is that the law has to be applied fairly to everyone. Just think about how damning the invasion of Iraq has been. It would be a totally different narrative if Bush and co. were properly investigated for their role in potentially lying about the invasion. The issue is that these lessons move at the speed of democracy, which is quite slow, and it's fundamentally a political process at that. Therefore, it's up to voters and that takes time and access to information. On the other hand, I'm not aware of a better way to do things.
- 0zemp2c 3y ago
  America's democracy was subverted loooong ago, its called Wall Street...they figured it out - when you write the laws, you don't need to worry about breaking the law but keep thinking you are standing guard arresting some rednecks keep your credit score up! compliance is important the system is so thoroughly subverted that yes, voting is a waste of time...its amusing to watch the lemmings put the little "I Voted!!" sticker on their shirts like it matters...
  - grey05 3y ago
    [dead]
  - boeingUH60 3y ago
    This is cynical nonsense. Sure, Wall Street is so in charge that government policies of recent years have contributed to a wide slump in the markets. Why didn't they use that control to benefit themselves? Sure, there's corruption in Wall Street. But if you believe they write the laws, then I have some penny stocks and SPACs from Chamath Palihapitiya to sell you.

noduerme 3y ago

Living in Bend does weird things to people.

im3w1l 3y ago

> “Yeah, f--- them! Yeah, kill ’em! Kill ’em! Kill ’em! Kill ’em!” So he was so stupid that he did the agent provocateur thing without being one?

aww_dang 3y ago
The NYT, WashPo and other mainstream outlets claim that the alleged presence of agent provocateurs is either a, "right-wing conspiracy theory" or a, "alt-right conspiracy theory". Take your pick of scare words. Would they lie?

nova22033 3y ago

> FBI says former agent arrested over Jan. 6 called officers Nazis and encouraged mob to ‘kill ’em’ Why did you change the title?

scrum-treats 3y ago
To be more reportative and less emphatic, I suppose. Nevertheless, you are correct. The headline does read that a former FBI supervisor named Jared L. Wise called Capitol police officers "Nazis" and encouraged the mob [ of actual Nazis... ] to "kill 'em." The article goes on to state that "Federal authorities have arrested at least 1,000 people in connection with the riot on Jan. 6, 2021, including multiple current and former law enforcement officers. Shortly after the attack, a top FBI official warned that many within the bureau were 'sympathetic' to the mob." According to DOJ[1], the FBI's major priorities are to: - Protect the United States from terrorist attack. [FAIL: Jan 6th Capitol riot] - Protect the U.S. against foreign intelligence, espionage, and cyber operations. [FAIL: Russian and Chinese espionage + cyber operations] - Protect the United States against cyber-based attacks and high-technology crimes. [FAIL: [2]] - Combat significant cybercriminal activity. [FAIL: [2]] - Combat public corruption at all levels. [FAIL: Russian and Chinese espionage + cyber operations; Facebook + Cambridge Analytica] - Protect civil rights. [FAIL: Jan 6th Capitol riot] - Combat transnational criminal enterprises. [FAIL: Trump family; Epstein] - Combat significant white-collar crime. [FAIL: Trump family] - Combat significant violent crime. [FAIL: Jan 6th Capitol riot] [1]https://www.justice.gov/doj/organization-mission-and-functions-manual-federal-bureau-investigation https://www.justice.gov/doj/organization-mission-and-functio... [2]https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-scrambles-assess-damage-russia-linked-us-government/story?id=74780271 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-scrambles-assess-damage-...
- nmrtxg 3y ago
  [flagged]
- scrum-treats 3y ago
  Not sure why this is downvoted, as there are actual credible citations.

Gibbon1 3y ago

Imagine blowing your government pension over this.

dragonwriter 3y ago
Not the first government employee, including law enforcement or military members, arrested in connection with it.

WeylandYutani 3y ago

So the US has decided that it is a riot now not a coup attempt? Can't handle the truth? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Spanish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Spanish_coup_d%27%C3%A9... Nobody in Spain denies this. Wonder why America is different.

aww_dang 3y ago
From your linked article, first paragraph: >Lieutenant-Colonel Antonio Tejero led 200 armed Civil Guard officers into the Congress of Deputies during the vote to elect a President of the Government. The officers held the parliamentarians and ministers hostage for 18 hours, during which time King Juan Carlos I denounced the coup in a televised address, calling for rule of law and the democratic government to continue. The royal address fatally undermined the coup. Though shots were fired, the hostage-takers surrendered the next morning without killing anyone. I really do not see the equivalence here at all. Only through a highly partisan stretch could a professional gymnast make this leap.
- WeylandYutani 3y ago
  It was not a spontaneous outburst everything was preplanned and orchestrated by Trump and co but unfortunately we will have to leave it to future historians not the FBI.
DoItToMe81 3y ago
Peacefully occupying a building and leaving on your own accord is not a coup. If you think this is comparable to armed groups lead by the military occupying parliament and threatening to murder the people inside if demands are not met, I have no idea what to say.
- ModernMech 3y ago
  Peaceful? We all saw what happened in real time. What I saw was not peaceful. If it was peaceful, why did they bring (and use) so many weapons? Why did Rudy Giuliani call for “trial by combat” at the Ellipse Rally? Why did so many people get injured? Why was so much damage done? Why did people die?

scrum-treats 3y ago

Not sure why this post is flagged, while all these other FBI-related posts remain unflagged: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=fbi&sort=byDate&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....