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I would be speculating if there wasn't any noise about destroying the pipelines from at least one of the parties involved. From all the sound bytes I have heard

I would be speculating if there wasn't any noise about destroying the pipelines from at least one of the parties involved. From all the sound bytes I have heard, I have never heard the Russians saying that they will blow up the pipeline. I have always heard Americans talking about how blowing up the pipeline will be a good measure to stop Putin (which to their great disappointment hasn't done anything but make it worse for Germany and Europe). Even Biden said openly that he would "bring an end to Nord Stream 2". When pressed by a journalist on how he would "bring an end to Nord Stream 2" he said it unambiguously: "We will, I promise you we will be able to do it". So there is no ambiguity as to who blew it up.

kashunstva 3y ago
> So there is no ambiguity as to who blew it up. There is no ambiguity about the Biden Administration’s intent to bring an end to the project. But his answer leaves open the question of the lengths the US was willing to go in order to see that intent fulfilled. It’s plausible but not unambiguously true that the US was involved. Unless, of course there is evidence I’m not familiar with.
anon777778 3y ago
The "Nord Stream 1" was blown, not "Nord Stream 2". "Nord Stream 2" was completed, but blocked by sanctions (as a result of Ukrainian War). "Nord Stream 1" was operational, but Gazprom (Russia) halted delivery at least a month before the sabotage. So you could very easily twist the argument and say that blowing NS1 was an attempt (by Russia) to force NS2 approval and put more pressure on Germany to break sanctions. Note that immediately after that event gas prices went up, even though NS1 was not delivering gas at that time. If the winter was not mild, it could end in very favorable outcome for Russia.
- shri_krishna 3y ago
  Both were blown. You might want to consult better sources for your information. Infact the first explosion was in Nord Stream 2, and 17 hours later Nord Stream 1 was blown up. It's literally a Google search away.
  - selimthegrim 3y ago
    They were not completely blown up - one pipe is still operable.
emptysongglass 3y ago
You're still speculating.
actionfromafar 3y ago
And Russian navy ships stayed on top of the place of the explosions days before. I'm not sure who did it, but neither are you.

kashunstva 3y ago

> So there is no ambiguity as to who blew it up. There is no ambiguity about the Biden Administration’s intent to bring an end to the project. But his answer leaves open the question of the lengths the US was willing to go in order to see that intent fulfilled. It’s plausible but not unambiguously true that the US was involved. Unless, of course there is evidence I’m not familiar with.

anon777778 3y ago

The "Nord Stream 1" was blown, not "Nord Stream 2". "Nord Stream 2" was completed, but blocked by sanctions (as a result of Ukrainian War). "Nord Stream 1" was operational, but Gazprom (Russia) halted delivery at least a month before the sabotage. So you could very easily twist the argument and say that blowing NS1 was an attempt (by Russia) to force NS2 approval and put more pressure on Germany to break sanctions. Note that immediately after that event gas prices went up, even though NS1 was not delivering gas at that time. If the winter was not mild, it could end in very favorable outcome for Russia.

shri_krishna 3y ago
Both were blown. You might want to consult better sources for your information. Infact the first explosion was in Nord Stream 2, and 17 hours later Nord Stream 1 was blown up. It's literally a Google search away.
- selimthegrim 3y ago
  They were not completely blown up - one pipe is still operable.

emptysongglass 3y ago

You're still speculating.

actionfromafar 3y ago

And Russian navy ships stayed on top of the place of the explosions days before. I'm not sure who did it, but neither are you.