Okay, I'll bite. Your just-so statements shouldn't convince anybody of anything, but I'll provide a few points to think about anyway. > I just don't get why yo

Okay, I'll bite. Your just-so statements shouldn't convince anybody of anything, but I'll provide a few points to think about anyway. > I just don't get why you'd even want to sleep separately from your young child. People have different life experiences. It really shouldn't be the first time you hear about people doing things differently than you and still getting similar results. > They cry because they crave physical closeness, physical contact, Yes. They also cry because they're hungry, because their diaper is full and when they are tired. When our kids were babies there were even times they cried because they needed to be left alone. They were overstimulated and we needed to stop trying to help them. > the rhythm of their parents breathing, Can't say I've noticed that one. Seems hard to isolate though. By the time they hear you breathing, they'll feel body heat, see your face and are usually also in your arms and getting some interaction. Not sure how you have determined that it was the breathing that was doing the trick... > just like we've done for millions of years. I can't tell if this is the fallacy of appeal to tradition, the fallacy of appeal to nature, or an equally silly "appeal to evolution". Evolution didn't stop at some magical point in the past. There's no reason why what held back then must still hold now. Nor is longevity of a trait proof of an evolutionary advantage. It just has to not be a disadvantage to stick around. > All you do in denying that is create a lasting distance, nightmares, Funny how neither that "lasting distance" nor the nightmares panned out for our kids, who have slept their entire lives in their own room. Can't say I've noticed those things in many other kids either, which is strange since private rooms are very much the norm around here.