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Can anyone report if the battery life issues have been fixed, and to what degree. This is what kept me from switching...

by _cenw 4y ago

pveierland 4y ago
They improved it as part of the latest refresh: https://frame.work/blog/whats-new-in-this-years-framework-laptop-13-part1 https://frame.work/blog/whats-new-in-this-years-framework-la...
abofh 4y ago
Battery life better than my apple device for sure - though it's an old MacBook air
- Cthulhu_ 4y ago
  The new Apple benchmark will be their M1 / M2 laptops, I don't think anything tops that at this point.
  - abofh 4y ago
    Dunno, I'm less and less interested in apple devices these days, I've got one on the shelf, I guess we can test it in a year or two
spiffytech 4y ago
Running Fedora and doing web browsing + light coding, I get around 5 hours of battery. That doesn't feel great, but it's rarely an actual problem for my use patterns. Besides that, I love the laptop.
schmorptron 4y ago
The new AMD models that are coming out later this year seem very promising in that regard, but no reviews are out as of yet.
j45 4y ago
They are offering larger batteries than before, probably time to revisit
WinLychee 4y ago
On Linux this was solved for me by using `tlp` and I check usage once in a while with powertop. It's going to be not so great out of the box (~5-6 hours) but after some basic tweaks I can pull 10. Mostly the fixes are about getting the CPU to scale down into a low power state.
smeej 4y ago
I've never managed to get sleep or hibernate to work correctly, so aside from the fact that I have to shut the thing all the way down if I want to leave it unplugged overnight, or just always leave it plugged in, it's fine. I think it might have to do with my using full-disk encryption, but I've been unwilling to go all the way through attempting a fresh install to fix.
- culopatin 4y ago
  So it’s like a desktop with a hinge. I recently moved to a MacBook after being a win/Linux user my whole life and the thing I love the most is the feeling that if I close the lid, all is going to be ok and I can immediately open it back up and it won’t freak out or I won’t find it’s still working on sleeping. Being at an airport and closing it, putting it in the bag, boarding, resuming work. Or relocating at home from table to desk to couch, things you do with a laptop cost you battery and heat with a framework?
  - q845712 4y ago
    YMMV but both my macbooks occasionally display evidence that they were awake while they were asleep (e.g. if i close the hing at 10pm and open it at 8am, it might show 2:14am for a few seconds before catching up, but also they show new unread messages even before connecting to wifi). Weirdly my 2013 macbook is much much better at going to sleep and waking up with nearly the same battery capacity, whereas my 2019 (work laptop) will often run down 15-40% of its battery over the weekend while completely closed.
    - _cenw 4y ago
      That's intentional and what Windows Modern Standby is trying to copy, badly. https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/what-is-power-nap-mh40773/mac https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/what-is-power-nap-m...
    - culopatin 4y ago
      Have you check your settings? There is one that allows the Mac to wake up to update

Can anyone report if the battery life issues have been fixed, and to what degree. This is what kept me from switching...

by _cenw 4y ago

Can anyone report if the battery life issues have been fixed, and to what degree. This is what kept me from switching...

pveierland 4y ago

They improved it as part of the latest refresh: https://frame.work/blog/whats-new-in-this-years-framework-laptop-13-part1 https://frame.work/blog/whats-new-in-this-years-framework-la...

abofh 4y ago

Battery life better than my apple device for sure - though it's an old MacBook air

Cthulhu_ 4y ago
The new Apple benchmark will be their M1 / M2 laptops, I don't think anything tops that at this point.
- abofh 4y ago
  Dunno, I'm less and less interested in apple devices these days, I've got one on the shelf, I guess we can test it in a year or two

spiffytech 4y ago

Running Fedora and doing web browsing + light coding, I get around 5 hours of battery. That doesn't feel great, but it's rarely an actual problem for my use patterns. Besides that, I love the laptop.

schmorptron 4y ago

The new AMD models that are coming out later this year seem very promising in that regard, but no reviews are out as of yet.

j45 4y ago

They are offering larger batteries than before, probably time to revisit

WinLychee 4y ago

On Linux this was solved for me by using `tlp` and I check usage once in a while with powertop. It's going to be not so great out of the box (~5-6 hours) but after some basic tweaks I can pull 10. Mostly the fixes are about getting the CPU to scale down into a low power state.

smeej 4y ago

I've never managed to get sleep or hibernate to work correctly, so aside from the fact that I have to shut the thing all the way down if I want to leave it unplugged overnight, or just always leave it plugged in, it's fine. I think it might have to do with my using full-disk encryption, but I've been unwilling to go all the way through attempting a fresh install to fix.

culopatin 4y ago
So it’s like a desktop with a hinge. I recently moved to a MacBook after being a win/Linux user my whole life and the thing I love the most is the feeling that if I close the lid, all is going to be ok and I can immediately open it back up and it won’t freak out or I won’t find it’s still working on sleeping. Being at an airport and closing it, putting it in the bag, boarding, resuming work. Or relocating at home from table to desk to couch, things you do with a laptop cost you battery and heat with a framework?
- q845712 4y ago
  YMMV but both my macbooks occasionally display evidence that they were awake while they were asleep (e.g. if i close the hing at 10pm and open it at 8am, it might show 2:14am for a few seconds before catching up, but also they show new unread messages even before connecting to wifi). Weirdly my 2013 macbook is much much better at going to sleep and waking up with nearly the same battery capacity, whereas my 2019 (work laptop) will often run down 15-40% of its battery over the weekend while completely closed.
  - _cenw 4y ago
    That's intentional and what Windows Modern Standby is trying to copy, badly. https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/what-is-power-nap-mh40773/mac https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/what-is-power-nap-m...
  - culopatin 4y ago
    Have you check your settings? There is one that allows the Mac to wake up to update