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There are third party apps that will see right through your "secret stalking mode". Basically, since apple doesn't give a damn about android users, they just u

There are third party apps that will see right through your "secret stalking mode". Basically, since apple doesn't give a damn about android users, they just unleashed airtags on the world with no way to be alerted you are being stalked if you only have android. Months later apple did release some half assed android app that doesn't do automatic scanning. So android users need to use something like airguard and that just so happens to also snitch on tiles.

crhulls 3y ago
It is all about deterrence levels. Thieves aren't completely dumb but they also take the path of least resistance. We are going to do things like rotating MACs that will make it harder for generic apps to be useful and further make thieves have to be more intentional.
- Fatnino 3y ago
  Airguard can still see devices with rotating MACs. They just pollute the detection list a bit and draw attention to themselves.
lstamour 3y ago
Actually re non-iPhone detection: I’ve been annoyed by air tags beeping and it’s definitely the case that the new anti-stalking features on AirTags make them rather noisy and easy to find as a result. You have to get very creative with the hiding spot so that thieves know it exists (they can hear it) but they can’t find it, remove it or take out the battery to disable it. I’ve heard stories about people planting more than one AirTag on their bike, such as dropping one in the frame in a hard to reach area, and having opportunists decide to drop the bike off at a used store than deal with the AirTag they can’t find that keeps making noise.
sgtnoodle 3y ago
I'm curious how those third party apps work. Are they tailored to specific vendors' beacons, or do they operate generically on all BLE announcements? I'm curious because I have a medical implant that broadcasts a burst of announcement frames once every minute.

crhulls 3y ago

It is all about deterrence levels. Thieves aren't completely dumb but they also take the path of least resistance. We are going to do things like rotating MACs that will make it harder for generic apps to be useful and further make thieves have to be more intentional.

Fatnino 3y ago
Airguard can still see devices with rotating MACs. They just pollute the detection list a bit and draw attention to themselves.

lstamour 3y ago

Actually re non-iPhone detection: I’ve been annoyed by air tags beeping and it’s definitely the case that the new anti-stalking features on AirTags make them rather noisy and easy to find as a result. You have to get very creative with the hiding spot so that thieves know it exists (they can hear it) but they can’t find it, remove it or take out the battery to disable it. I’ve heard stories about people planting more than one AirTag on their bike, such as dropping one in the frame in a hard to reach area, and having opportunists decide to drop the bike off at a used store than deal with the AirTag they can’t find that keeps making noise.

sgtnoodle 3y ago

I'm curious how those third party apps work. Are they tailored to specific vendors' beacons, or do they operate generically on all BLE announcements? I'm curious because I have a medical implant that broadcasts a burst of announcement frames once every minute.