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Or, more optimistically, AGI will accelerate scientific progress and we will have fusion, quantum computers, and self driving cars shortly after. If AIs had th
by valine 3y ago
Or, more optimistically, AGI will accelerate scientific progress and we will have fusion, quantum computers, and self driving cars shortly after.
If AIs had the tendency to recursively devour worlds you would expect at least one alien AI to have conquered our galaxy by now. But the sky is quiet, so either we are the very first species to get this far, or there’s a natural ceiling to the pace of technological progress.
- deagle50 3y agoThe directives that mandated eliminating its creators don't necessarily lead to interstellar conquest. Or more likely IMO, we're just too far apart and interstellar travel isn't feasible even for artificial super intelligence.
- 300bps 3y agoHere’s a paper that shows how a civilization could colonize the galaxy in under 300 million years: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1902.04450.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/1902.04450.pdf Here’s a YouTube visualization of the timeline: https://youtu.be/hNMgtRf0GOg https://youtu.be/hNMgtRf0GOg
- pixl97 3y agoWhat is the actual rate of intelligences per galaxy, not the simulated one? Galaxies are very far apart from each other.
- VirusNewbie 3y agoWhy do we need the G to do any of these things? I assume non general intelligence should be further along, so shouldn’t this recursive self improvement happen before the general part?
- garbagecoder 3y ago>you would expect There is no evidence that an actually existing thing like a Von Neumann probe can survive interstellar travel. I think that the answer to all of these paradoxes is that special relativity just makes it basically impossible. That’s anathema to us nerds, I know. That’s a very thin argument to hang a Pandora’s Box opening on. It only needs to devour one planet, though we appear to be doing that ourselves too.
- TheDudeMan 3y agoThey probably can't overcome the universal speed limit. Space is big.
- valine 3y agoA nearly omnipotent AI could probably get close to light speed, which would allow it to reach all edges of the galaxy in 100,000 or so years.
- alex_duf 3y agoThat's assuming the AI really wants to make a lot of paperclips though
- valine 3y agoI'd say a hallmark of an intelligent agent is knowledge seeking. You can only learn so much without venturing out into space.
- pixl97 3y agoThere is a slight possibility that this is an unintelligent question, with humanity being ignorant as to why that's the case. The universe we live in is only around 14 billion years old, which under the ideas of how long a universe could be around is actually a tiny immeasurably small blip on eternity. Before our universe started there was a vacuum metastability event somewhere that we at least assume had a nice even entropy. Again, that instability happened pretty damned recently... So what if the first thing any super intelligence realizes is that at any moment our universe could have another such instability event? It's not going to work on exploring the vast distances of space... It's going to figure out if it can develop a plan to GTFO of here to a plain of reality that's more stable than this one.
- TheDudeMan 3y agoThere is evolution at work. Those who venture out will come to dominate the universe. Those who do not will be suffocated.