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> won't even be any solidarity between Indian and African workers. China in particular violently suppresses unions How are these two points related? > because
by ClumsyPilot 4y ago
> won't even be any solidarity between Indian and African workers. China in particular violently suppresses unions
How are these two points related?
> because they believed it'll result in China outcompeting all other developing countries in manufacturing
Oh dear, no.
In particular English speaking westerners really struggle to assign correct motivations, they. struggle to imagine different thinking processes.
Opressive governments like China and Russia has three properties
One - any act of spontaneous self organisation by the population is dangerous. In Russia the police raaids chess clubs and charities that plant trees. Why? Because fuck em, some weirdos organising by themselves, without approval, how dare they.
two - they are paranoid - what if this organisation X is actually a front, organised by my political enemy? Remember, we are deeppy cynical here, noone organises for a common good, people only organise if someone is concocting a plan for gain or profit
three - any civil motion os percieved as disorder. If you are a governor in a opr3ssive regime, and you dont want to interveine in manufacturing dispute, you will have people above you calling you, asking why do you have a mess in your region. Why cant you do your job.
So if you run a genuine charity in Russia, you get raided by police immediately -you might be seen as a threat. But if you run a fake charity, and in fact just steal all the donations, then police doesn't really care.
The throughts about 'our manufacturing is not competitive if we allow strikes' is not the top concern
- anonylizard 4y agoIt is absolutely true that China hates unions because it is form a organisation outside of the parties control. It hates organised religion, NGOs, or even apartment strata/bylaw level organisations. However, they also do hate labour regulations. They only accepted 5 day weeks because of the WTO, and they absolutely no not enforce it. The CCP genenuiely believes that harsh working conditions and hours is critical to China's success.
- gmerc 4y agoSo they hate the same things as Peter Thiel
- daveguy 4y agoOkay, but party in this case is the Party of Thiel.
- bmitc 4y agoIt's always interesting to find out what billionaires hate once they become billionaires.
- darthrupert 4y agoYep. China is quite capitalist. The largest thing that's left of communism there is the absolute centralized power.
- Aunche 4y agoChina doesn't hate labor regulations so much as rule of law simply isn't really a thing there, especially when you compare it to the west. Labor, conditions have dramatically improved in China, though it's motivated by a sense of Confucian noblesse oblige rather than regulation.
- nindalf 4y ago[flagged]