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On the other hand, no they won't. People with nothing to write about talked about games and movies converging for years and they never even came close. The cl

On the other hand, no they won't. People with nothing to write about talked about games and movies converging for years and they never even came close. The closest you could say was games have a narrative woven in. Movies are passive and everything is intentional. Games are fundamentally about interactivity. They are practically opposite forms of entertainment. I don't even know what you mean by 'social will converge'.

echelon 4y ago
Oh hey! You're the person who was telling me half a year ago that AI porn wouldn't be a thing [1, 2]. I'm wholly confident you're just as wrong about this, and I'd even put my money on it [3]. Here's my prediction: - Stories, narratives, characters, and game loops will become generative. Their capacity to generate new unseen and unwritten content will be heralded as revolutionary. - The quality of games and GenAI will soon reach that of Hollywood films and take on a cinematic feeling. - Players or viewers will be able to actively participate in the unfolding world (games) or sit back and watch them unfold (movies). This will be a spectrum (and not just on a single dimension). - Narrative instances will be passive, single player, multi player, and massively multiplayer. You can sit back and watch a world unfold with your friends, or each participate as your own individual character that is an immersive and key part of the world. Cooperatively or in competition with one another, and at every point within that that spectrum. This will be similar to D&D, but at a scale never before seen. Wholly engrossing. - Just like we've seen inklings of with YouTube and TikTok, you'll be able to remix the narratives you construct and participate in. You'll be able to world build, tweak, and share. You'll be able to take off the shelf situations and narratives and customize them as much as you want. Your previous "play through" or "stage time" can be recorded as its own personality that can become an AI agent in someone else's journey. - This world building scene will be full of creators, musicians, directors, actors, and lots of people that just want to experience and hang out. - Just as before, I'll throw porn into this prediction too. GenAI porn will similarly replace the manually filmed artifact, and moreover, it'll be interactive. Some people will even fall in love with their artificial companion(s). As this becomes more normalized, these adult AI companions may even find themselves injected into otherwise family friendly narratives. What you do with them at home is your own business. Before you say it's implausible, I know for a fact that 3d-guided diffusion works and that it'll soon spook the entire Hollywood industry to the core. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32711614 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32711614 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35523656 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35523656 [3] effectively I have. I quit my $400k/yr job to go full time on this and poured over half a million of my personal funds (so far) into building my company
- CyberDildonics 4y ago
  telling me half a year ago that AI porn wouldn't be a thing No, I told you it wouldn't devastate an industry built on hosting videos. It hasn't and those video hosting sites already host videos that are animated, because they don't care how their stuff is generated if people want to watch it. Go back and re-read what you linked with a little more focus this time. poured over half a million of my personal funds (so far) into building my company And how many people are paying for your 'generative game loops' (whatever that means)?
- jiggawatts 4y ago
  Wait... what? You've invested half a million into AI porn? Seriously!? I'm morbidly curious: how do you plan to recoup your costs? I assume porn is so trivial to get for free that it must be a relatively low profit industry...
  - echelon 4y ago
    No, I'm not building porn! (Not that there's anything wrong with those that are.) I conflated GenAI as a whole and I see how my post is interpreted now. My mistake. I always think of the oft-quoted meme about porn being the canary in the coal mine for the adoption of new tech: film, VHS, usenet, web, P2P, Twitter/Tumblr/Reddit, streaming, VR, AI... I think the trend has held pretty well historically. NovelAI, Civit, etc. are making a lot of money on it, and they're leading indicators of more expansive "SFW" use cases that will follow.
    - moneywoes 4y ago
      Are you hiring
- sandwichbop 4y ago
  would love if you could share a bit about your previous $400k/yr job. What market/sector niche/role was it if anything you can share about it, really curious!
- Scrolleo 4y ago

echelon 4y ago

Oh hey! You're the person who was telling me half a year ago that AI porn wouldn't be a thing [1, 2]. I'm wholly confident you're just as wrong about this, and I'd even put my money on it [3]. Here's my prediction: - Stories, narratives, characters, and game loops will become generative. Their capacity to generate new unseen and unwritten content will be heralded as revolutionary. - The quality of games and GenAI will soon reach that of Hollywood films and take on a cinematic feeling. - Players or viewers will be able to actively participate in the unfolding world (games) or sit back and watch them unfold (movies). This will be a spectrum (and not just on a single dimension). - Narrative instances will be passive, single player, multi player, and massively multiplayer. You can sit back and watch a world unfold with your friends, or each participate as your own individual character that is an immersive and key part of the world. Cooperatively or in competition with one another, and at every point within that that spectrum. This will be similar to D&D, but at a scale never before seen. Wholly engrossing. - Just like we've seen inklings of with YouTube and TikTok, you'll be able to remix the narratives you construct and participate in. You'll be able to world build, tweak, and share. You'll be able to take off the shelf situations and narratives and customize them as much as you want. Your previous "play through" or "stage time" can be recorded as its own personality that can become an AI agent in someone else's journey. - This world building scene will be full of creators, musicians, directors, actors, and lots of people that just want to experience and hang out. - Just as before, I'll throw porn into this prediction too. GenAI porn will similarly replace the manually filmed artifact, and moreover, it'll be interactive. Some people will even fall in love with their artificial companion(s). As this becomes more normalized, these adult AI companions may even find themselves injected into otherwise family friendly narratives. What you do with them at home is your own business. Before you say it's implausible, I know for a fact that 3d-guided diffusion works and that it'll soon spook the entire Hollywood industry to the core. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32711614 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32711614 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35523656 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35523656 [3] effectively I have. I quit my $400k/yr job to go full time on this and poured over half a million of my personal funds (so far) into building my company

CyberDildonics 4y ago
telling me half a year ago that AI porn wouldn't be a thing No, I told you it wouldn't devastate an industry built on hosting videos. It hasn't and those video hosting sites already host videos that are animated, because they don't care how their stuff is generated if people want to watch it. Go back and re-read what you linked with a little more focus this time. poured over half a million of my personal funds (so far) into building my company And how many people are paying for your 'generative game loops' (whatever that means)?
jiggawatts 4y ago
Wait... what? You've invested half a million into AI porn? Seriously!? I'm morbidly curious: how do you plan to recoup your costs? I assume porn is so trivial to get for free that it must be a relatively low profit industry...
- echelon 4y ago
  No, I'm not building porn! (Not that there's anything wrong with those that are.) I conflated GenAI as a whole and I see how my post is interpreted now. My mistake. I always think of the oft-quoted meme about porn being the canary in the coal mine for the adoption of new tech: film, VHS, usenet, web, P2P, Twitter/Tumblr/Reddit, streaming, VR, AI... I think the trend has held pretty well historically. NovelAI, Civit, etc. are making a lot of money on it, and they're leading indicators of more expansive "SFW" use cases that will follow.
  - moneywoes 4y ago
    Are you hiring
sandwichbop 4y ago
would love if you could share a bit about your previous $400k/yr job. What market/sector niche/role was it if anything you can share about it, really curious!
Scrolleo 4y ago