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My first job was supporting an in-house system built in UniVerse. My second job was supporting a commercial ERP that ram on top of UniData. I like the more mod

My first job was supporting an in-house system built in UniVerse. My second job was supporting a commercial ERP that ram on top of UniData. I like the more modern stuff I work with now, but I truly miss the multivalue world some days. Every once in a while I install the UniVerse personal edition and build something for fun. I will definitely check out scarletdme!

nivethan 3y ago
Because I'm just a straight nerd for BASIC here are some links! A quick guide to getting started with scarletdme: https://nivethan.dev/devlog/scarletdme.html https://nivethan.dev/devlog/scarletdme.html Unfortunately I never ported my editor and shell to scarletdme so this will be UniVerse/UD/D3 specific: An editor like vim: https://github.com/Krowemoh/eva https://github.com/Krowemoh/eva A fish like shell: https://github.com/Krowemoh/nsh https://github.com/Krowemoh/nsh scarletdme in the browser(this will be a 500mb download as it runs debian under v86.js): https://nivethan.dev/projects/v86/scarlet.html https://nivethan.dev/projects/v86/scarlet.html
- Mister_Snuggles 3y ago
  Very nice - scarletdme in the browser is brilliant! The two things I do to start playing in a new MV environment both worked exactly as I hoped they would: LIST VOC And ED BP BLAH I PRINT "THIS IS A TEST" FIBR The environment feels very normal and reasonable, as far as a multivalue system goes. The only differences I came across are minor, like compiled programs going in BP.OUT instead of BP.O or the debugger being called DEBUG instead of RAID. I definitely need to set this up and seriously play with it! I periodically download a new copy of UniVerse PE to play with, but this is something I could actually do real work in. Believe it or not, I actually like working in ED and/or AE. At one point (back in the UniVerse job), I wrote my own shell. It was basically a REPL that passed whatever you typed to EXEC, except for one nifty trick. The trick was that there were two REPLs in the program - one which worked normally, the other executed within a BEGIN TRANSACTION/END TRANSACTION block and had commands to commit and rollback. Having two REPLs was a concession to get it to even compile because BASIC required that BEGIN TRANSACTION and END TRANSACTION form a block, you couldn't just arbitrarily call those commands. I didn't even bother building a history mechanism, it was literally just a REPL that could work within the context of a transaction. It was incredibly useful.
  - nivethan 3y ago
    That sounds pretty cool. I'm guessing you created a transaction block and then executed commands inside it, giving you a way to mess with the system without borking it.That is brilliant and is giving me all sorts of ideas :) Honestly the best programmers are out here using ED. 0 syntax highlighting and you can only see 40-60 lines at a time. Insanity. There is a 64bit version of scarletdme in the dev branch and the instructions are the same, it should work on both debian and centos.

nivethan 3y ago

Because I'm just a straight nerd for BASIC here are some links! A quick guide to getting started with scarletdme: https://nivethan.dev/devlog/scarletdme.html https://nivethan.dev/devlog/scarletdme.html Unfortunately I never ported my editor and shell to scarletdme so this will be UniVerse/UD/D3 specific: An editor like vim: https://github.com/Krowemoh/eva https://github.com/Krowemoh/eva A fish like shell: https://github.com/Krowemoh/nsh https://github.com/Krowemoh/nsh scarletdme in the browser(this will be a 500mb download as it runs debian under v86.js): https://nivethan.dev/projects/v86/scarlet.html https://nivethan.dev/projects/v86/scarlet.html

Mister_Snuggles 3y ago
Very nice - scarletdme in the browser is brilliant! The two things I do to start playing in a new MV environment both worked exactly as I hoped they would: LIST VOC And ED BP BLAH I PRINT "THIS IS A TEST" FIBR The environment feels very normal and reasonable, as far as a multivalue system goes. The only differences I came across are minor, like compiled programs going in BP.OUT instead of BP.O or the debugger being called DEBUG instead of RAID. I definitely need to set this up and seriously play with it! I periodically download a new copy of UniVerse PE to play with, but this is something I could actually do real work in. Believe it or not, I actually like working in ED and/or AE. At one point (back in the UniVerse job), I wrote my own shell. It was basically a REPL that passed whatever you typed to EXEC, except for one nifty trick. The trick was that there were two REPLs in the program - one which worked normally, the other executed within a BEGIN TRANSACTION/END TRANSACTION block and had commands to commit and rollback. Having two REPLs was a concession to get it to even compile because BASIC required that BEGIN TRANSACTION and END TRANSACTION form a block, you couldn't just arbitrarily call those commands. I didn't even bother building a history mechanism, it was literally just a REPL that could work within the context of a transaction. It was incredibly useful.
- nivethan 3y ago
  That sounds pretty cool. I'm guessing you created a transaction block and then executed commands inside it, giving you a way to mess with the system without borking it.That is brilliant and is giving me all sorts of ideas :) Honestly the best programmers are out here using ED. 0 syntax highlighting and you can only see 40-60 lines at a time. Insanity. There is a 64bit version of scarletdme in the dev branch and the instructions are the same, it should work on both debian and centos.