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BSSIDs of nearby WiFi networks that are compared to lists sent by mobile devices with real GPS

by lights0123 3y ago

mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
And if I don't even have a wifi card?
- NavinF 3y ago
  Then you represent a trivially small fraction of users. My desktop doesn't have wifi either, but most modern motherboards come with a wifi card built in. Not to mention the majority of visitors to mainstream sites are on mobile and a good chunk of the rest are on a laptop. Also Firefox has 3% market share so we're talking about a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction.
  - mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
    I run Qubes unless I'm doing something very performance-oriented like massively parallel workloads. So Firefox doesn't know about the builtin wifi card, which has no antenna connected, because I don't use it and it's just in the way anyway. So yeah I have a wifi card, technically, but also technically don't from the point of view of firefox or any other program on my computer.
  - gsich 3y ago
    Most? More likely than not you will not have such a card in a mainboard.
    - NavinF 3y ago
      Yes, most. Look at X470 or z590 mobos that are 2 generations old. The majority have wifi though I personally don't see the point.
      - gsich 3y ago
        Random board: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X470-AORUS-ULTRA-GAMING-rev-10/sp#sp https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X470-AORUS-ULTRA-GAMING...
nl 3y ago
I don't think the BSSIDs are sent using the HTML5 location service. Instead your computer operating system sends the BSSIDs to another service, get the location back and then your browser uses this location service to send a lat,long to the requesting website. See https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/mac-help/mh35873/mac https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/mac-help/mh35873/mac and https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-location-service-and-privacy-3a8eee0a-5b0b-dc07-eede-2a5ca1c49088 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-location...

BSSIDs of nearby WiFi networks that are compared to lists sent by mobile devices with real GPS

mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago

And if I don't even have a wifi card?

NavinF 3y ago
Then you represent a trivially small fraction of users. My desktop doesn't have wifi either, but most modern motherboards come with a wifi card built in. Not to mention the majority of visitors to mainstream sites are on mobile and a good chunk of the rest are on a laptop. Also Firefox has 3% market share so we're talking about a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction.
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
  I run Qubes unless I'm doing something very performance-oriented like massively parallel workloads. So Firefox doesn't know about the builtin wifi card, which has no antenna connected, because I don't use it and it's just in the way anyway. So yeah I have a wifi card, technically, but also technically don't from the point of view of firefox or any other program on my computer.
- gsich 3y ago
  Most? More likely than not you will not have such a card in a mainboard.
  - NavinF 3y ago
    Yes, most. Look at X470 or z590 mobos that are 2 generations old. The majority have wifi though I personally don't see the point.
    - gsich 3y ago
      Random board: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X470-AORUS-ULTRA-GAMING-rev-10/sp#sp https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X470-AORUS-ULTRA-GAMING...

nl 3y ago

I don't think the BSSIDs are sent using the HTML5 location service. Instead your computer operating system sends the BSSIDs to another service, get the location back and then your browser uses this location service to send a lat,long to the requesting website. See https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/mac-help/mh35873/mac https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/mac-help/mh35873/mac and https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-location-service-and-privacy-3a8eee0a-5b0b-dc07-eede-2a5ca1c49088 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-location...