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Until you get automatically banned from the top subreddit simply for commenting in a completely separate subreddit the mods don't like.

by nbar1 3y ago

WeylandYutani 3y ago
Maybe I have nostalgia glasses on but when I grew up on the internet forums only deleted posts that had illegal content. They did not remove unpopular opinions. Reddit is were actual discussion goes to die. Comes with the downvote ability I suppose.
- nbar1 3y ago
  10 years ago we seen a lot of open-discussion platforms. That all died when picking a side became profitable.
- scrollaway 3y ago
  You don’t have nostalgia glasses on. You have a nostalgia blindfold on. Mods on the “old forums” routinely deleted posts and banned users because they don’t like their opinion or hell even just as a “fuck why not it’s funny”. Source: was a mod and active participant of such forums and saw it all the time. Did my fair share too.
  - StanislavPetrov 3y ago
    This is true but I vastly prefer having my post arbitrarily deleted by a random mod than the current climate of ubiquitous narrative enforcement.
  - celdon25 3y ago
    I got a forum admin fired once for crap like that. Filed a BBB complaint.
- officeplant 3y ago
  instantly reminds me of two moments in the early 2000s. 17yo me got banned from the then largest synthesizer forum in 2004 just because I called a mod named Angus "Mr. Beef" one too many times. :) And another particularly niche forum dedicated to a specific range of car chassis with a specific set of engine swaps that would permaban anyone who asked a question that could be answered via forum search. Which was at least mentioned in the forum rules you had to read before joining. Forum mods were notorious power trippers on any forum I've been on. Sometimes it was worth it just to keep order. Other times it led to flame wars and forum splinters where a few people would start their own in competition to try and pick up the unhappy crowd. So really nothing has changed because this is exactly how most discord/telegram servers, forums, subreddits, etc still function.
  - technothrasher 3y ago
    > Forum mods were notorious power trippers on any forum I've been on. Back about 10-15 years ago I agreed to be a mod on a pretty large and popular forum, naively thinking I could help keep the place decent and useful for the users. What I discovered instantly were hidden mod forums where they made fun of all the users, laughed about arbitrarily banning people, and discussed about how they banned posts about illegal stuff mostly because it gave away their secrets. I gave that up quickly and decided I was all set with modding.
    - officeplant 3y ago
      Just reminded me of another mod power trip. Local buy/trade/sell car forum got sold when the owner got approached with a cash offer. The way the forum worked was it took mod approval before your listing would go live. Kept out spam/trash posts and helped keep the forum organized. It was eventually discovered that he was screening the listings for things he could make a first offer on and flip somewhere else for profit. Caused the whole place to implode and everyone moved to a handful of splintered facebook swap shop groups.
- EdwardDiego 3y ago
  Never went to SomethingAwful forums then.
seattle_spring 3y ago
<comment removed as it was devolving into a flame war>
- confoundcofound 3y ago
  Congrats, you are the problem. Half of my hardworking, law-abiding immigrant community of doctors, engineers, and scientists were on the_donald. These are people who’ve actually faced hate in this country and who likely have way more exposure to people of different races & backgrounds than the average American. If that does nothing to make you reevaluate your opinion, then you are sadly and ironically a victim of divisive indoctrination. Edit: For context, the parent advocated banning users from an entire subreddit as a sound moderation strategy.
  - seattle_spring 3y ago
    <comment removed as it was devolving into a flame war>
    - confoundcofound 3y ago
      Its worst content was no worse than what you saw (and still see) on other subreddits. You would be disingenuous to not acknowledge the political forces at play. Mods were on high alert because they knew admins were waiting for the most microscopic of reasons to ban the sub. And we know these forces exist. Twitter is proof positive of political bias in content moderation. People of all backgrounds were on the_donald, which should make you question why they were tolerant of much of the content you likely perceived as hateful. If your answer is simply that they’re bigots, then I suggest you have more conversations.
      - seattle_spring 3y ago
        Which political subreddit calls their opponents “fucking cuck” or equivalent with extreme regularity? For the record, this is devolving into a flame war and that wasn’t my intention. I suggest this stops here.
jamilton 3y ago
I'm saying getting banned from the top subreddits deprives you of very little value.

Until you get automatically banned from the top subreddit simply for commenting in a completely separate subreddit the mods don't like.

by nbar1 3y ago

Until you get automatically banned from the top subreddit simply for commenting in a completely separate subreddit the mods don't like.

WeylandYutani 3y ago

Maybe I have nostalgia glasses on but when I grew up on the internet forums only deleted posts that had illegal content. They did not remove unpopular opinions. Reddit is were actual discussion goes to die. Comes with the downvote ability I suppose.

nbar1 3y ago
10 years ago we seen a lot of open-discussion platforms. That all died when picking a side became profitable.
scrollaway 3y ago
You don’t have nostalgia glasses on. You have a nostalgia blindfold on. Mods on the “old forums” routinely deleted posts and banned users because they don’t like their opinion or hell even just as a “fuck why not it’s funny”. Source: was a mod and active participant of such forums and saw it all the time. Did my fair share too.
- StanislavPetrov 3y ago
  This is true but I vastly prefer having my post arbitrarily deleted by a random mod than the current climate of ubiquitous narrative enforcement.
- celdon25 3y ago
  I got a forum admin fired once for crap like that. Filed a BBB complaint.
officeplant 3y ago
instantly reminds me of two moments in the early 2000s. 17yo me got banned from the then largest synthesizer forum in 2004 just because I called a mod named Angus "Mr. Beef" one too many times. :) And another particularly niche forum dedicated to a specific range of car chassis with a specific set of engine swaps that would permaban anyone who asked a question that could be answered via forum search. Which was at least mentioned in the forum rules you had to read before joining. Forum mods were notorious power trippers on any forum I've been on. Sometimes it was worth it just to keep order. Other times it led to flame wars and forum splinters where a few people would start their own in competition to try and pick up the unhappy crowd. So really nothing has changed because this is exactly how most discord/telegram servers, forums, subreddits, etc still function.
- technothrasher 3y ago
  > Forum mods were notorious power trippers on any forum I've been on. Back about 10-15 years ago I agreed to be a mod on a pretty large and popular forum, naively thinking I could help keep the place decent and useful for the users. What I discovered instantly were hidden mod forums where they made fun of all the users, laughed about arbitrarily banning people, and discussed about how they banned posts about illegal stuff mostly because it gave away their secrets. I gave that up quickly and decided I was all set with modding.
  - officeplant 3y ago
    Just reminded me of another mod power trip. Local buy/trade/sell car forum got sold when the owner got approached with a cash offer. The way the forum worked was it took mod approval before your listing would go live. Kept out spam/trash posts and helped keep the forum organized. It was eventually discovered that he was screening the listings for things he could make a first offer on and flip somewhere else for profit. Caused the whole place to implode and everyone moved to a handful of splintered facebook swap shop groups.
EdwardDiego 3y ago
Never went to SomethingAwful forums then.

seattle_spring 3y ago

confoundcofound 3y ago
Congrats, you are the problem. Half of my hardworking, law-abiding immigrant community of doctors, engineers, and scientists were on the_donald. These are people who’ve actually faced hate in this country and who likely have way more exposure to people of different races & backgrounds than the average American. If that does nothing to make you reevaluate your opinion, then you are sadly and ironically a victim of divisive indoctrination. Edit: For context, the parent advocated banning users from an entire subreddit as a sound moderation strategy.
- seattle_spring 3y ago
  <comment removed as it was devolving into a flame war>
  - confoundcofound 3y ago
    Its worst content was no worse than what you saw (and still see) on other subreddits. You would be disingenuous to not acknowledge the political forces at play. Mods were on high alert because they knew admins were waiting for the most microscopic of reasons to ban the sub. And we know these forces exist. Twitter is proof positive of political bias in content moderation. People of all backgrounds were on the_donald, which should make you question why they were tolerant of much of the content you likely perceived as hateful. If your answer is simply that they’re bigots, then I suggest you have more conversations.
    - seattle_spring 3y ago
      Which political subreddit calls their opponents “fucking cuck” or equivalent with extreme regularity? For the record, this is devolving into a flame war and that wasn’t my intention. I suggest this stops here.

jamilton 3y ago

I'm saying getting banned from the top subreddits deprives you of very little value.