You wouldn’t. Most customers tolerate IBM, they aren’t investing. The only exception is in the defense space, there are some things from a segmentation perspec

You wouldn’t. Most customers tolerate IBM, they aren’t investing. The only exception is in the defense space, there are some things from a segmentation perspective that are cheaper to achieve on mainframes. But that isn’t a startup scenario, and those advantages are eroding as well. IBM has huge margins on this stuff, so the typical play is use margin on the mainframe to win software and services deals. Startups need fast time to market, so it makes sense to overpay AWS by the drink than to overpay for a feast from IBM.