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Interesting read. If anyone else got curious why Amagicom AB was mentioned, it seems to be the parent company of Mullvad. I'm still surprised the police left w

Interesting read. If anyone else got curious why Amagicom AB was mentioned, it seems to be the parent company of Mullvad. I'm still surprised the police left without any fuzz because Mullvad surely must keep track of both transactions and the connected computers (to limit use). But maybe that data is stored somewhere else. I'm also a bit surprised it took the police one month from the approved search warrant to them actually doing it. Unless I misunderstood.

mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
Even stranger is that apparently the event the investigation is related to was a scam in Germany from 2021. Seems like a complete hail mary by German police.
- suddenclarity 3y ago
  It's described as blackmail that stopped institutions from doing their work, so possibly an encryption virus? The German police had an IP going to Mullvad so it kinda makes sense that they would ask Swedish police to get info on who used it? Would be an error on their part to not follow the lead?
  - mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
    Well my point was, if German police is making international requests to check out a vpn provider based on an ip from 2 years ago, probably they're running out of ideas at that point, possibly even aware that the data is no longer there, and just responding to political pressure to "do something". Mullvad even pointed out that Swedish police are well aware at this point that there's no useful information for them there. That's why I think probably it's just to appease some politican or DA somewhere, or some other type of strange bureaucratic machination.
    - jeroenhd 3y ago
      Investigations take time. It's possible that they managed to get a disk dump of a compromised server and found a Mullvad config file, for instance, and they were just trying to follow the trail back to the criminals that carried out the attack. I'm guessing the authorities were hoping that Mullvad lies about their no logs policy, like some cheap VPN providers do.
piva00 3y ago
> I'm also a bit surprised it took the police one month from the approved search warrant to them actually doing it. Unless I misunderstood. It took them 2 months, the decision for the search warrant was taken on 17 February, the search was done on April 18.
_2uwr 3y ago
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hrunt 3y ago
> I'm still surprised the police left without any fuzz because Mullvad surely must keep track of both transactions and the connected computers (to limit use). But maybe that data is stored somewhere else. First, I'm not surprised because it sounds like the Swedes knew what the result was going to be from their history with Mullvad. It sounds like they performed the action because of the international nature of the request, but they expected the result. Second, the only thing that Mullvad needs to keep track of to run their business is which accounts have paid and when they will need to pay again. They do not need to keep anything more than that. Based on their pricing model, they do not need to worry about who is connected where, when, etc.

mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago

Even stranger is that apparently the event the investigation is related to was a scam in Germany from 2021. Seems like a complete hail mary by German police.

suddenclarity 3y ago
It's described as blackmail that stopped institutions from doing their work, so possibly an encryption virus? The German police had an IP going to Mullvad so it kinda makes sense that they would ask Swedish police to get info on who used it? Would be an error on their part to not follow the lead?
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
  Well my point was, if German police is making international requests to check out a vpn provider based on an ip from 2 years ago, probably they're running out of ideas at that point, possibly even aware that the data is no longer there, and just responding to political pressure to "do something". Mullvad even pointed out that Swedish police are well aware at this point that there's no useful information for them there. That's why I think probably it's just to appease some politican or DA somewhere, or some other type of strange bureaucratic machination.
  - jeroenhd 3y ago
    Investigations take time. It's possible that they managed to get a disk dump of a compromised server and found a Mullvad config file, for instance, and they were just trying to follow the trail back to the criminals that carried out the attack. I'm guessing the authorities were hoping that Mullvad lies about their no logs policy, like some cheap VPN providers do.

piva00 3y ago

> I'm also a bit surprised it took the police one month from the approved search warrant to them actually doing it. Unless I misunderstood. It took them 2 months, the decision for the search warrant was taken on 17 February, the search was done on April 18.

_2uwr 3y ago

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hrunt 3y ago

> I'm still surprised the police left without any fuzz because Mullvad surely must keep track of both transactions and the connected computers (to limit use). But maybe that data is stored somewhere else. First, I'm not surprised because it sounds like the Swedes knew what the result was going to be from their history with Mullvad. It sounds like they performed the action because of the international nature of the request, but they expected the result. Second, the only thing that Mullvad needs to keep track of to run their business is which accounts have paid and when they will need to pay again. They do not need to keep anything more than that. Based on their pricing model, they do not need to worry about who is connected where, when, etc.