I don't think that it's always a lib/con issue, even if it gets played that way on the news, and I think the actual conservative side is often a lot more focuse

I don't think that it's always a lib/con issue, even if it gets played that way on the news, and I think the actual conservative side is often a lot more focused on kindness and safety than they are played. Even where I disagree with them (and libs too) I can often find happy middle-ground that both sides, divorced from their TV-applied baggage, can appreciate. It helps that I'm usually not in the USA and speaking about things outside of their rep/dem news-based framing. > I’ve watch gun ownership rise to hundreds of millions sold including weapons that liquify human life and a party that can watch the outcome of child massacres and just look the other way. I think this is a good example. In Canada there was a mass shooting and the government responded with a huge list of firearms restrictions. Ammo, magazines, models of guns, etc. Like 1400+ restrictions. But none of that would have impacted the guns the shooter had, which were all obtained illegally across the border. What it would have done is left even more country families without defense and made it easier for the shooter to go house to house. But it played well in the cities and was used to create an artificial lib/con divide in what is fundamentally a city/country issue. None of the "don't ban guns" people I spoke to wanted anyone to get shot, but they didn't want laws that won't help. We know that the vast majority of guns used in crime are illegal and that they come from the USA, not via stolen legal guns, so no amount of legal firearms crackdown would impact their numbers. If those restrictions were separately proposed when there wasn't a shooting some of them might have gotten some support, but when presented as a knee-jerk solution where they obviously wouldn't work there was a lot of pushback. Nobody wanted more shootings, especially the conservative side who had suffered in them, but they weren't willing to have their tragedy turned into a political defeat as well when it wouldn't even help. > the misogyny I'm pretty sure you mean abortion. I'm pro-choice and the bans scare me, but I see women getting shit on from both sides of the aisle. Men are being put in women's prisons: https://fairplayforwomen.com/campaigns/prisons/ https://fairplayforwomen.com/campaigns/prisons/ Even if they're baby rapers: https://torontosun.com/news/national/hunter-trans-killers-baby-rapists-terrifying-female-inmates https://torontosun.com/news/national/hunter-trans-killers-ba... And when they abuse women, the female inmates face extended punishment for describing them as male: https://insidetime.org/women-face-punishment-for-using-wrong-pronouns/ https://insidetime.org/women-face-punishment-for-using-wrong... Also sports: https://rileygaines.com/ https://rileygaines.com/ https://shewon.org/ https://shewon.org/ And violent terrorism against peaceful protest: https://archive.is/SrILu https://archive.is/SrILu https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/07/us/former-ncaa-swimmer-riley-gaines-assault-san-francisco-state-university/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/07/us/former-ncaa-swimmer-riley-... Both sides of the Dem/Rep fight are absolutely abusing women and women's rights, and while they're fighting against the other's excesses it's generally not to help women but to score points.