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It’s not clear whether ChatGPT and the likes would increase productivity at the organization level. And I am talking about the current GPT-4, not some hypotheti
by NhanH 3y ago
It’s not clear whether ChatGPT and the likes would increase productivity at the organization level. And I am talking about the current GPT-4, not some hypothetical AGI. From what I have seen, a large swath of usages are basically just people DDOSing their teams with a lot of words. Things like someone in a marketing team prompting for a “detailed 10-week plan with actual numbers” that naturally have no basis on reality, but will take a lot of effort from their team to decipher the bullshit. Likewise there are also generated hundred lines of code with tests that are subtlety wrong.
Basically the challenge is fairly straightforward, if one side is machine-generated, and the other side is human-validated, the human loses 100% of the time. Either the machine has to be 100% accurate or very close to it, or the human needs tools to help him. As it stands, neither of those conditions is here yet
- mistrial9 3y agothis is well-said, in the case where correctness is required. But low-trust communications via low-profit activity like tech-support, cheap ads, help lines for government, and even some professional services.. won't care; Employers gain and employees are redundant, next! In those businesses, it is an old story that the cheapest, cruelest and most-scofflaw company wins.. not even debatable that is true.. so here comes MSFT to sell it to you.
- oceanplexian 3y agoAll these arguments about how it can be wrong are literally identical to the arguments I heard from ignorant people between 2001-2008 on why search engines were unsafe because Google could return wrong answers or steal your data. IMO the only people crapping on AI either don’t know how to prompt it correctly, aren’t very creative, or frankly weren’t doing that much work in the first place and feel threatened by it. I understand the need to protect intellectual property but 10 years from now there will be two types of companies: Those that embrace AI, and those that crashed and burned.
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- selestify 3y agoDo you have any tips on how to prompt it right? How do I tell it to write code when it isn’t aware of custom internal classes and APIs?
- selestify 3y agoEdit: my comment might seem out of place now, but the comment I was replying to originally had this paragraph: > I write a lot of code with it and it’s extraordinarily, obviously clear that when prompted right, it increases productivity 2-5x. My company recently banned it and it has been excruciating. Like going back to coding before StackOverflow and Google existed. I would still appreciate any tips in this regards
- oceanplexian 3y agoGive it the context it needs. If you have internal APIs give them a .proto file or whatever you use to define an API. Phrase the question in a way that forces it to explain its thought process. Use chain of thought reasoning. Find documentation online, give it the documentation, then give it your code, then ask it to do something. Frequently spawn new sessions, if ChatGPT is repeatedly giving bad answers start a new session, modify the context, and ask in a different way. Basically you have to brute force it to get it to give you the answers you want on harder problems.
- selestify 3y agoGot it, will try this out. Thank you!
- ipaddr 3y agoUnsafe sounds like a parent explaining things to you. The big area of concern were people using 'doctor google' instead of going to a doctor. Finding a sore throat and jumping down the most negative path. You could use google to mine certain types of data in that era. Passwords.. now much of that is filtered. In 10 years those intellectual property rights might give them ownership over AI. The court battles haven't begun yet
- NhanH 3y agoThere has always been two types of companies: those that are run well and have process to evaluate tools as they fit the business values and needs, and those that are full of grifters, chasing whatever hype is trending at any given moment. Unfortunately, the latter type of companies is far from crashing and burning (or at least not quickly enough). You are neither arguing in good faith, nor even engaging in my argument at all. Please try not to do that. Your two paragraphs amount to nothing more than "if you are criticizing GPT-like tool, you are an idiot", that's not even an argument.
- klyrs 3y agoToday I was asked by a coworker, "why don't you use chatgpt." He had just asked me a question that chatgpt had failed to answer to satisfaction. I was able to find a complete and strongly justified answer within 30 seconds. But I suspect he'll continue using the tool. I'll continue thinking for myself.