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And to Google and Amazon and GitHub and Slack and 100 other SaaSs. Not sure why openai is supposed to be more of a concern.

TonyTrapp 3y ago
Because whatever you send to ChatGPT may be future training data for their AI model. Mixing up your data with other customer's data is not really part of Slack's business (yet?).
- vntok 3y ago
  You can opt out. See https://help.openai.com/en/articles/5722486-how-your-data-is-used-to-improve-model-performance https://help.openai.com/en/articles/5722486-how-your-data-is... > When you use our non-API consumer services ChatGPT or DALL-E, we may use the data you provide us to improve our models. You can switch off training in ChatGPT settings (under Data Controls) to turn off training for any conversations created while training is disabled or you can submit this form. Once you opt out, new conversations will not be used to train our models.
  - wrs 3y ago
    They just added the opt-out last week. I think they removed restrictions on using the output as well, but I haven’t gone back to look for details.
- speedgoose 3y ago
  True, but ChatGPT on Azure OpenAI never did: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/cognitive-services/openai/data-privacy https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/cognitive-services/o...
Bhilai 3y ago
Not all SaaS companies have security postures equivalent to Amazon/Google/Github/MS. Most SaaS have a fraction of a budget as compared tech giants to deal with security and privacy regulations.
croes 3y ago
Because OpenAI's product is a Chatbot. If somehow your data becomes part of the model, everyone can ask for it.
ssnistfajen 3y ago
Not sure why you are attempting to conflate a LLM product offering vs. these other companies (except maybe GitHub copilot which only has public repos as training data). What you enter into ChatGPT becomes part of its training data unless you use the extremely recently available opt-out option. Once it becomes part of the training data it will end in many outputs to entities beyond your control. OpenAI doesn't have enough safeguards to prevent every single instance of such leaks and it is infeasible for them to implement safeguards for every single instance of such leaks.
gumballindie 3y ago
Not following. Some eu data are not meant to be stored on aws zones outside the eu and if and where that is a concern aws is not used at all. Neither is azure or google cloud. Those “100 other saas” are meant to follow clear rules on how data is processed else they get stricken by gdrp.

TonyTrapp 3y ago

Because whatever you send to ChatGPT may be future training data for their AI model. Mixing up your data with other customer's data is not really part of Slack's business (yet?).

vntok 3y ago
You can opt out. See https://help.openai.com/en/articles/5722486-how-your-data-is-used-to-improve-model-performance https://help.openai.com/en/articles/5722486-how-your-data-is... > When you use our non-API consumer services ChatGPT or DALL-E, we may use the data you provide us to improve our models. You can switch off training in ChatGPT settings (under Data Controls) to turn off training for any conversations created while training is disabled or you can submit this form. Once you opt out, new conversations will not be used to train our models.
- wrs 3y ago
  They just added the opt-out last week. I think they removed restrictions on using the output as well, but I haven’t gone back to look for details.
speedgoose 3y ago
True, but ChatGPT on Azure OpenAI never did: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/cognitive-services/openai/data-privacy https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/cognitive-services/o...

Bhilai 3y ago

Not all SaaS companies have security postures equivalent to Amazon/Google/Github/MS. Most SaaS have a fraction of a budget as compared tech giants to deal with security and privacy regulations.

croes 3y ago

Because OpenAI's product is a Chatbot. If somehow your data becomes part of the model, everyone can ask for it.

ssnistfajen 3y ago

Not sure why you are attempting to conflate a LLM product offering vs. these other companies (except maybe GitHub copilot which only has public repos as training data). What you enter into ChatGPT becomes part of its training data unless you use the extremely recently available opt-out option. Once it becomes part of the training data it will end in many outputs to entities beyond your control. OpenAI doesn't have enough safeguards to prevent every single instance of such leaks and it is infeasible for them to implement safeguards for every single instance of such leaks.

gumballindie 3y ago

Not following. Some eu data are not meant to be stored on aws zones outside the eu and if and where that is a concern aws is not used at all. Neither is azure or google cloud. Those “100 other saas” are meant to follow clear rules on how data is processed else they get stricken by gdrp.