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It is Google allowing the user to set the default browser using its own interface, using the API Edge uses to allow the user to set the default browser using it

It is Google allowing the user to set the default browser using its own interface, using the API Edge uses to allow the user to set the default browser using its own interface. Microsoft loves to complain about applications doing things it doesn’t like, while its own applications are doing those exact same things. According to Microsoft the rule is that the rules just don’t apply to Microsoft Office and Microsoft Edge. Microsoft likes to pretend they play fair. But when they can’t win by playing fair, the facade quickly drops.

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nr2x 3y ago
Please, Google has explicitly made their products not work correctly in other browsers for years. This is totally playing fair, it’s just Google getting back what they give.
- tinus_hn 3y ago
  So Microsoft gets to use their monopoly powers to play the standards judge, jury and executioner?
  - nr2x 3y ago
    I’m fine if they go tit-for-tat to be honest.
mrguyorama 3y ago
Except we know from the time that Windows source code leaked that the reason Microsoft internal products use undocumented features or APIs is that the Office team is a bunch of incompetent hacks that ignore all the documentation and do things the wrong way all the time. There are literal comments in the code cussing out the Office team for doing something so wrong that the kernel team has to hack around it like they do for other popular misbehaving apps. They are purposely separate teams because if it were any other way, IBM would have sued them into the ground for anti-competitive actions. At least, this was the case ten years ago.
- tinus_hn 3y ago
  > the kernel team has to hack around it like they do for other popular misbehaving apps. Like Google Chrome? Or is that not a popular app? If you think the Office team doesn’t have access to the source code of the rest of Windows and doesn’t get special apis to do things you aren’t supposed to do, you’re in for a surprise. Where do you think that crazy crypto code Chrome uses to set itself as the default browser comes from? It’s obviously decompiled code from a Microsoft app that sets itself as the default. Because they have privileged access and can do the things they prevent others from doing. And exactly the same goes for Office. Little tricks to set the defaults, to allow their windows to pop up when others are blocked from doing so, privileged access to the update system, preinstallation with the OS, the list goes on and on. They are superficially separate teams for legal reasons.

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nr2x 3y ago

Please, Google has explicitly made their products not work correctly in other browsers for years. This is totally playing fair, it’s just Google getting back what they give.

tinus_hn 3y ago
So Microsoft gets to use their monopoly powers to play the standards judge, jury and executioner?
- nr2x 3y ago
  I’m fine if they go tit-for-tat to be honest.

mrguyorama 3y ago

Except we know from the time that Windows source code leaked that the reason Microsoft internal products use undocumented features or APIs is that the Office team is a bunch of incompetent hacks that ignore all the documentation and do things the wrong way all the time. There are literal comments in the code cussing out the Office team for doing something so wrong that the kernel team has to hack around it like they do for other popular misbehaving apps. They are purposely separate teams because if it were any other way, IBM would have sued them into the ground for anti-competitive actions. At least, this was the case ten years ago.

tinus_hn 3y ago
> the kernel team has to hack around it like they do for other popular misbehaving apps. Like Google Chrome? Or is that not a popular app? If you think the Office team doesn’t have access to the source code of the rest of Windows and doesn’t get special apis to do things you aren’t supposed to do, you’re in for a surprise. Where do you think that crazy crypto code Chrome uses to set itself as the default browser comes from? It’s obviously decompiled code from a Microsoft app that sets itself as the default. Because they have privileged access and can do the things they prevent others from doing. And exactly the same goes for Office. Little tricks to set the defaults, to allow their windows to pop up when others are blocked from doing so, privileged access to the update system, preinstallation with the OS, the list goes on and on. They are superficially separate teams for legal reasons.