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Sugar is addictive. And it might have more effect on your lifespan than the consumption of pornography. Quality of life, too.
by hvis 3y ago
Sugar is addictive. And it might have more effect on your lifespan than the consumption of pornography. Quality of life, too.
- AlecSchueler 3y agoYes it is, and that's why we teach our children about nutritional health and, in some places, regulate things like school dinners and products aimed at children. What point are you making in relation to the topic at hand?
- loeg 3y agoI can't read GP's mind, but sugar doesn't require ID verification to buy in the state of Utah, for example.
- AlecSchueler 3y agoNo, but driving a car or possessing a gun does. Different solutions for different issues is hardly a contentious proposal.
- loeg 3y agoEarlier you were concerned about the possible risk of addiction. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35788237 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35788237 Are cars or guns regulated because of addiction? No. So GP compared porn to sugar, which is considered addictive and has probably more concrete evidence of self-harm than porn. I think the comparison is apt? Certainly fairer than comparing porn to driving a car or gun possession, which is sort of absurd.
- AlecSchueler 3y agoAddictiveness was one of the multiple points I made about pornography. The other aspects apply to pornography and not to sugar. So it was apples and oranges to begin with. But in terms of addiction potential alone Utah already has precedent in legislating for that. Example: Utah doesn't allow minors to purchase alcohol because of its addictive nature.
- hvis 3y agoMost of your other points related to how pornography is produced, not to its consumption. Thus it wouldn't matter who is watching it, and thus ID check seems irrelevant. Some of the aspects of the porn market are not great, but they should be investigated by the relevant authorities. Hiding them from only certain people won't make them go away.
- bumby 3y agoThey might if sugar was able to be consumed for free with virtually unlimited access. I'm not sure it's a very good analogy.
- loeg 3y agoIt more or less is? It's extremely inexpensive.
- AlecSchueler 3y agoExtremely inexpensive is infinitely expensive when you're a 13 year old with 2 dollars to your name.
- loeg 3y agoIt does not need to be literally the same thing to be a useful point of comparison, which is the nitpick argument bumby was making.
- AlecSchueler 3y agoI was replying to your own position of it being extremely inexpensive. I understand that comparisons and metaphors are never 1 to 1. If you have another point to make then I'll gladly hear it out.
- bumby 3y agoNot nitpicking, I’m just saying a weak analogy doesn’t strengthen your case. Equating sugar to porn misses some of the important aspects of what makes porn potentially dangerous.
- bumby 3y agoLottery tickets are extremely inexpensive. But what do you think would happen to consumption of lotto tickets if they went from $3 to free, especially in a frictionless environment where you can just download them?
- pnt12 3y agoAnd does Utah have a strong sex education curriculum, to teach children about it? I assume no - it's just a ban on sinful behavior.
- AlecSchueler 3y agoLet's hope they are also exploring the avenues indeed.
- GalahiSimtam 3y agoWhy do I see this fallacy all over anti-porn threads? Keto diets might be a fad and about as difficult as quitting porn, but still.
- bart_spoon 3y agoSounds more like an argument for regulation targeting externalities surrounding sugar and artificial sweeteners than against regulation targeting pornography.