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Every post about H1B misuse leads to people eventually talking about the validity of the H1B itself. So, I'll dive straight in. There is no good way to talk abo
by screye 3y ago
Every post about H1B misuse leads to people eventually talking about the validity of the H1B itself. So, I'll dive straight in. There is no good way to talk about H1-Bs without first talking about one's values around immigration. Do they they support immigration and what shapes their opinion about high skilled immigration.
A majority of Americans are off-springs of a living immigrant ancestor (1st, 2nd and 3rd gen immigrants). A conservative extrapolation would put them at 66% of the population[1]. I have no empathy for any one from this majority that completely opposes immigration. It's 'I got mine' style hypocrisy.
The other 33% have various reasons for opposing immigration. But, depending on the type immigration that is made legal, it's possible to address every type of concern.
For example:
1. Poverty/crime/economy related complaints due to low skill immigration ---> enable high skill immigrants. Overwhelmingly low-crime & a huge net positive for the economy.
2. Culture related complaints ---> enable US education based immigration. Let them be explicitly indoctrinated into American-ness.
3. Low-wage / job stealing ---> set an income based lower bound. H1bs already require salaries to match the local median. But, I'd even support more aggressive percentile requirements. Do people not understand the around $20-30k/yr overhead that employing immigrants entails. (applications, lawyers, lottery risks, multiple rounds of secondary interviews for LCA) ? L1-visas are cheap. H1Bs are fairly expensive.
There are many more such angles, but I have yet to hear a cohesive argument for a blanket ban on immigration that isn't a thinly veiled concern about demographic replacement of the descendants of earlier settlers. Now, I am mildly sympathetic to that argument too. In a dog-eat-dog world, their ancestors replaced the local population of the British Isles and then North America. The world is cruel, and only the paranoid survive. Would be a lot easier to then debate around those points, because the statistics on contributions to the economy and lack of social delinquency are in favor of H1Bs when compared to the descendants of the early settlers.
I'll keep it at that. HN does not encourage culture-warring. I'll abide.
[1] https://news.gallup.com/poll/4621/majority-americans-identify-themselves-third-generation-americans.aspx#:~:text=3-,SUMMARY%20TABLE,-Immigrant https://news.gallup.com/poll/4621/majority-americans-identif...