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Funnily enough our company will start to roll out an internal ChatGPT UI with an agreement with Azure on not to use the data for training etc, where we would be

Funnily enough our company will start to roll out an internal ChatGPT UI with an agreement with Azure on not to use the data for training etc, where we would be allowed to share internal data.

LeifCarrotson 4y ago
Probably best to nip "shadow IT" in the bud with an easy-to-use approved internal ChatGPT connection, rather than hoping that employees don't try make use of the tool surreptitiously. Samsung may attempt to ban use of the tool for their employees because they're worried about loss of internal data, but when the tool hugely reduces the workload of those employees, they'll find a way to use it anyways.
- wahnfrieden 4y ago
  they will use the azure services.
ajcp 4y ago
You mean Azure OpenAI Service with the ChatGPT (preview) enabled [1]? We've been using it for a couple months now; it's lovely. 1. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/openai/chatgpt-quickstart?tabs=command-line&pivots=programming-language-studio https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/o...
- SushiHippie 4y ago
  Probably, does it have a GUI on its own, or is this something every company needs to implement themselves?
  - ajcp 4y ago
    The service has a Studio[1] where users can utilize the Chat capabilities. Our understanding (and approach) has been to utilize this to curate and train the GTP models and capabilities and then expose those to the wider org via other, already utilized UI (like MS Teams). 1. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/openai/media/quickstarts/chatgpt-playground-load.png https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/o...
  - dgwight 4y ago
    I am looking into open sourcing a PWA ChatGPT client for this. But I am not certain how to handle authentication without a backend or each user needing to add their OpenAI key
    - jeremycarter 4y ago
      I am also working on a similar solution. How far did you get?
mysterydip 4y ago
Just curious, what's the penalty if it is used for training or other things (purposely or accidentally)?
Silverback_VII 4y ago
how to do they use the data for training? Will my questions about the optimal shape of a dildo be remembered forever?
- jstarfish 4y ago
  "As an AI language model, I am prohibited from instructing you to fuck yourself."
davely 4y ago
Just rolled it out internally at our company as well. It’s nice to have access to GPT-4 without having to pay for it myself (those queries and responses get pricey if you use it a lot). Super helpful for boilerplate code. Right now, we have a limit of 500 tokens though, so it somewhat limits asking more complex questions. Interestingly, our internal team supporting it has added a ton of initial prompts depending on what vertical of our business you want to ask about. Kind of neat, as I haven’t tried to get the AI to pretend to be something else as of yet. (Because I mostly just ask it to write various things to the tune of the “Fresh Prince of Bel Air”)
- subroutine 4y ago
  How did you get access to GPT4? Were you guys already using the 3.5 model and get upgraded at some point?
  - davely 4y ago
    I actually don’t know. We just rolled out access to LLMs internally for the first time within the last week and both models were present when I was granted access.
- ParetoOptimal 4y ago
  > Just rolled it out internally at our company as well. It’s nice to have access to GPT-4 without having to pay for it myself (those queries and responses get pricey if you use it a lot). When you say use it a lot do you mean typing in queries yourself or programatically and/or recursively generating prompts like autogpt? Because I thought one day I had used it a lot by typing in lots of messages. The next day my usage was less than a few dollars.
croes 4y ago
How would you recognize if they use your data?
- rs999gti 4y ago
  Exactly, can your lawyer or legal department ask for documented proof that you did not contribute to training data?
- sebzim4500 4y ago
  The same way you would recognize if Google was selling your GSuite data or Msft was selling your Office data.
  - croes 4y ago
    This would be exact quotes, in an LLM model this harder to recognize. You can hardly see from the pictures AI if your picture is part of the model.
    - pixl97 4y ago
      So what you're saying is if you use any cloud provider they could be training their AI with your data and you'll never know...
yawnxyz 4y ago
Aren't you still just trusting that they won't "accidentally leak" all that data to OpenAI for training?

Funnily enough our company will start to roll out an internal ChatGPT UI with an agreement with Azure on not to use the data for training etc, where we would be allowed to share internal data.

LeifCarrotson 4y ago

Probably best to nip "shadow IT" in the bud with an easy-to-use approved internal ChatGPT connection, rather than hoping that employees don't try make use of the tool surreptitiously. Samsung may attempt to ban use of the tool for their employees because they're worried about loss of internal data, but when the tool hugely reduces the workload of those employees, they'll find a way to use it anyways.

wahnfrieden 4y ago
they will use the azure services.

ajcp 4y ago

You mean Azure OpenAI Service with the ChatGPT (preview) enabled [1]? We've been using it for a couple months now; it's lovely. 1. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/openai/chatgpt-quickstart?tabs=command-line&pivots=programming-language-studio https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/o...

SushiHippie 4y ago
Probably, does it have a GUI on its own, or is this something every company needs to implement themselves?
- ajcp 4y ago
  The service has a Studio[1] where users can utilize the Chat capabilities. Our understanding (and approach) has been to utilize this to curate and train the GTP models and capabilities and then expose those to the wider org via other, already utilized UI (like MS Teams). 1. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/openai/media/quickstarts/chatgpt-playground-load.png https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/o...
- dgwight 4y ago
  I am looking into open sourcing a PWA ChatGPT client for this. But I am not certain how to handle authentication without a backend or each user needing to add their OpenAI key
  - jeremycarter 4y ago
    I am also working on a similar solution. How far did you get?

mysterydip 4y ago

Just curious, what's the penalty if it is used for training or other things (purposely or accidentally)?

Silverback_VII 4y ago

how to do they use the data for training? Will my questions about the optimal shape of a dildo be remembered forever?

jstarfish 4y ago
"As an AI language model, I am prohibited from instructing you to fuck yourself."

davely 4y ago

Just rolled it out internally at our company as well. It’s nice to have access to GPT-4 without having to pay for it myself (those queries and responses get pricey if you use it a lot). Super helpful for boilerplate code. Right now, we have a limit of 500 tokens though, so it somewhat limits asking more complex questions. Interestingly, our internal team supporting it has added a ton of initial prompts depending on what vertical of our business you want to ask about. Kind of neat, as I haven’t tried to get the AI to pretend to be something else as of yet. (Because I mostly just ask it to write various things to the tune of the “Fresh Prince of Bel Air”)

subroutine 4y ago
How did you get access to GPT4? Were you guys already using the 3.5 model and get upgraded at some point?
- davely 4y ago
  I actually don’t know. We just rolled out access to LLMs internally for the first time within the last week and both models were present when I was granted access.
ParetoOptimal 4y ago
> Just rolled it out internally at our company as well. It’s nice to have access to GPT-4 without having to pay for it myself (those queries and responses get pricey if you use it a lot). When you say use it a lot do you mean typing in queries yourself or programatically and/or recursively generating prompts like autogpt? Because I thought one day I had used it a lot by typing in lots of messages. The next day my usage was less than a few dollars.

croes 4y ago

How would you recognize if they use your data?

rs999gti 4y ago
Exactly, can your lawyer or legal department ask for documented proof that you did not contribute to training data?
sebzim4500 4y ago
The same way you would recognize if Google was selling your GSuite data or Msft was selling your Office data.
- croes 4y ago
  This would be exact quotes, in an LLM model this harder to recognize. You can hardly see from the pictures AI if your picture is part of the model.
  - pixl97 4y ago
    So what you're saying is if you use any cloud provider they could be training their AI with your data and you'll never know...

yawnxyz 4y ago

Aren't you still just trusting that they won't "accidentally leak" all that data to OpenAI for training?