4 ms·
About a month ago I had my groceries delivered from Wholefoods and the deliver driver carded me for some non-alcoholic beer I had purchased. I tried explaining
by mkoryak 3y ago
About a month ago I had my groceries delivered from Wholefoods and the deliver driver carded me for some non-alcoholic beer I had purchased. I tried explaining to him that he didn't have to do that, but he wouldn't unload my groceries until I let him scan my ID.
- _yb2s 3y agoI had this a lot during the pandemic lockdown, for groceries and takeout… things that weren’t even liquid or food were mislabeled in some database as alcohol, requiring stressful social interaction when the whole point was no contact dropoff. Crazy how people aren’t allowed to use common sense but have to follow an apps instructions.
- 0xffff2 3y agoIt's really not that crazy. "allowed to use common sense" is a loophole you could drive a semi truck through.
- anigbrowl 3y agoGood, I don't want to live in an open-air prison where everything has to be approved by some administrator.
- 0xffff2 3y agoOkay, so advocate for repealing laws that age-restrict sales of alcohol, tobacco, etc. I don't think you'll find much support for your position, and until you do the company has a duty to do basic due diligence to not break the law.
- anigbrowl 3y agoFalse dichotomy. Basic due diligence can include asking the obviously young if they're old enough and does not need to be so heavily bureaucratized or strictly regulated. I suggest that restricting tobacco advertising and imposing high taxes on tobacco sales has done far more to limit youth consumption than any number of ID checks and retail license policing. Most other developed countries get by just fine with a much more relaxed attitude. Demanding identification and legal documentation for every little thing is excessive and imposes a compliance burden on everyone. It's fair in the sense of being non-discriminatory, but unfair in the sense that it creates a massive aggregate burden, reduces privacy, and institutes authoritarian presumptions.
- whats_a_quasar 3y agoThis happens to me at self-checkout at Safeway. I guess I can get somebody to come and check my ID, but seems unnecessary.
- taylodl 3y agoRight? Why can't you scan your ID and then be prompted what information to share with the system, like age? I scan my ID, the system asks to retrieve age information, it retrieves it, now I can proceed to scan my alcohol. No human interaction required. If the person manning the self-checkout operations thinks you look awfully young to be buying alcohol then they can always demand to see your ID. Simple.
- baristavibes 3y agoNo way to check you're actually the person on the ID this way
- kevin_thibedeau 3y agoLots of places have mandatory ID checks regardless of appearance.
- anigbrowl 3y agoStop complying with them. If they won't sell to you, take your business elsewhere and tell them why. If they whine about laws tell them to hire better lobbyists.
- kevin_thibedeau 3y agoEliminating the discretion of a cashier is not a bad thing. It harms no one and makes their job easier.
- anigbrowl 3y agoIt harms me by making me ask permission of strangers to eat and drink what I choose. I don't think telling people to operate as mindless robots makes their job easier.
- ghostpepper 3y agoWait they actually scan your ID? Or did you mean visually 'scan' it
- bragr 3y agoActually scan. I sometimes get beer via door dash, and they quickly verify your age by scanning the barcode on your ID. It pops up green so fast that at least some of the verification must be local to the phone, but I'm sure some data gets sent back. But I had to upload my ID to Door Dash the first time, so incremental scans don't really give them anything new.