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American citizens got, collectively, an advantage by exploiting these people. As much as you didn't want them there, they have been working and providing value

by piva00 4y ago

American citizens got, collectively, an advantage by exploiting these people. As much as you didn't want them there, they have been working and providing value to your society, and paying taxes. In the end they are not only exploited by the companies taking advantage of a broken system but also now some citizens (you) think they should be punished even more by being kicked out of a place they create roots at. The lack of empathy is, frankly, astounding...

boringuser2 4y ago
I like how you think empathy only exists when it isn't being directed towards people you like. It's just such a cynical and emotionally manipulative conceit to demand that your group (I've perused your history and am aware you're an immigrant) be treated with "empathy", which is something you reserve entirely for your own benefit. If other people thought like you, you wouldn't get any at all.
- piva00 4y ago
  I like how you only attacked me and not even tried to acknowledge you are lacking empathy by wanting to kick people out of a place due to some misplaced anger :) You are aware you can want the current immigration system to change without causing massive harm to some people, right? They are people, with lives, just like you, not some faceless cog in a machine that you can decide doesn't suit you anymore and be thrown out. It's not cynical and manipulative to remind yourself that these are lives, not a fucking number, we are talking about. Good luck with your anger, hopefully you can find healthier and more productive ways to express it.
  - boringuser2 4y ago
    You are incredibly emotionally manipulative. Perhaps you should remember yourself that the lives destroyed by companies outsourcing American wealth (both directly and indirectly via immigration) had a real cost on real people.
    - piva00 4y ago
      You are incredibly dim. Of course it had a real cost on real people, immigration to the USA causes a continuous brain drain in multiple countries that could use the skilled labour for their own benefits. I don't dispute that at all. Outsourcing American wealth causing these companies to become wealthier, maybe it's time you direct your anger somewhere else, somewhere which is actually causing this issue, no? Instead of punishing workers who immigrated and generated wealth for your society. I can give you a tip: point it towards corporations :) Good luck, mate.
belltaco 4y ago
I think the punishment for those workers is the thing they want. Their logic is probably that the worse the punishment the less likely people want to work in the US, so that tech salaries will balloon even higher. In reality many jobs will be nearshored to Canada/Mexico or offshored, especially with all the remote friendly setups that have taken place during Covid.

by piva00 4y ago

boringuser2 4y ago

I like how you think empathy only exists when it isn't being directed towards people you like. It's just such a cynical and emotionally manipulative conceit to demand that your group (I've perused your history and am aware you're an immigrant) be treated with "empathy", which is something you reserve entirely for your own benefit. If other people thought like you, you wouldn't get any at all.

piva00 4y ago
I like how you only attacked me and not even tried to acknowledge you are lacking empathy by wanting to kick people out of a place due to some misplaced anger :) You are aware you can want the current immigration system to change without causing massive harm to some people, right? They are people, with lives, just like you, not some faceless cog in a machine that you can decide doesn't suit you anymore and be thrown out. It's not cynical and manipulative to remind yourself that these are lives, not a fucking number, we are talking about. Good luck with your anger, hopefully you can find healthier and more productive ways to express it.
- boringuser2 4y ago
  You are incredibly emotionally manipulative. Perhaps you should remember yourself that the lives destroyed by companies outsourcing American wealth (both directly and indirectly via immigration) had a real cost on real people.
  - piva00 4y ago
    You are incredibly dim. Of course it had a real cost on real people, immigration to the USA causes a continuous brain drain in multiple countries that could use the skilled labour for their own benefits. I don't dispute that at all. Outsourcing American wealth causing these companies to become wealthier, maybe it's time you direct your anger somewhere else, somewhere which is actually causing this issue, no? Instead of punishing workers who immigrated and generated wealth for your society. I can give you a tip: point it towards corporations :) Good luck, mate.

belltaco 4y ago

I think the punishment for those workers is the thing they want. Their logic is probably that the worse the punishment the less likely people want to work in the US, so that tech salaries will balloon even higher. In reality many jobs will be nearshored to Canada/Mexico or offshored, especially with all the remote friendly setups that have taken place during Covid.