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I hope these laws don’t devolve into a special internet for Utah (and maybe more red states in the future). Remember this is about social media too. This is ev

by vlunkr 3y ago

I hope these laws don’t devolve into a special internet for Utah (and maybe more red states in the future). Remember this is about social media too. This is eventually going to hit even Hacker News if the law is actually effective. Is HN going to jump through the hoops of complying with the law or just block Utah?

nimbius 3y ago
from a programmatic standpoint i think it is both easier and more ethical to simply block utah. Im working on a python library now that should easily remove the threat of utah from the internet in most cases, and can be rapidly deployed should anyone suspect utah on their local networks or extranets. EDIT: i am told this is due to a specific law in utah and has nothing to do with the numerous well respected and certainly not crackpot theorists I subscribe to.
VWWHFSfQ 3y ago
Realistically this is what Utah wants. Only 60% of Utah residents are Mormon, but 85%+ of their elected state representatives and senators are Mormon. They are happy to force the rest of society to carve out a space "just for them", which is pretty much in line with their entire history anyway.
- vlunkr 3y ago
  There are conspiracy theories that this is actually all about “anti Mormon” content on Reddit (and apparently it’s big on TikTok?) It’s a conspiracy that I could probably buy into.
  - ngngngng 3y ago
    Thanks for appropriately labeling this a conspiracy theory. As a Mormon in Utah I find this absurd, but conversations on Mormonism online are pretty tricky, so you come to expect absurd claims like that. I support this law on its face, but I also don't have an issue with laws like this keeping those that might not successfully integrate into the existing culture of Utah from moving here. I imagine there are others that probably think like me.
- themitigating 3y ago
  What about people in Utah who don't want this? You don't like porn don't use it. You don't want your kids to watch it, stop them. Restricting the freedom of everyone is unacceptable
  - kelseyfrog 3y ago
    It makes them feel bad when other people do it. Combined with a majority in govt, the results are predictable.
  - otabdeveloper4 3y ago
    > You don't like racism and homophobia then don't visit these sites. Restricting the freedom of everone is unacceptable Nno no no bros, not like that. (I'll show myself out.)
    - honkycat 3y ago
      yes I would sincerely argue this. What are you even trying to say? Is that not how it works currently? Freaking chud-brains lol.
    - themitigating 3y ago
      Racism and homophobia aren't banned so what is your argument? If you don't like racism or porn sites don't go to them.
evantbyrne 3y ago
Unfortunately, it isn't just smut on the internet that's being locked down. Red state politicians are doing everything they can to curtail freedom of speech and expression. First it's just about protecting children, then they go after adults. We are already seeing this play out with LGBT rights in other places. I never thought I would see such extreme changes in legal speech take place between red and blue states in my lifetime. The last couple years have been wild.

by vlunkr 3y ago

nimbius 3y ago

from a programmatic standpoint i think it is both easier and more ethical to simply block utah. Im working on a python library now that should easily remove the threat of utah from the internet in most cases, and can be rapidly deployed should anyone suspect utah on their local networks or extranets. EDIT: i am told this is due to a specific law in utah and has nothing to do with the numerous well respected and certainly not crackpot theorists I subscribe to.

VWWHFSfQ 3y ago

Realistically this is what Utah wants. Only 60% of Utah residents are Mormon, but 85%+ of their elected state representatives and senators are Mormon. They are happy to force the rest of society to carve out a space "just for them", which is pretty much in line with their entire history anyway.

vlunkr 3y ago
There are conspiracy theories that this is actually all about “anti Mormon” content on Reddit (and apparently it’s big on TikTok?) It’s a conspiracy that I could probably buy into.
- ngngngng 3y ago
  Thanks for appropriately labeling this a conspiracy theory. As a Mormon in Utah I find this absurd, but conversations on Mormonism online are pretty tricky, so you come to expect absurd claims like that. I support this law on its face, but I also don't have an issue with laws like this keeping those that might not successfully integrate into the existing culture of Utah from moving here. I imagine there are others that probably think like me.
themitigating 3y ago
What about people in Utah who don't want this? You don't like porn don't use it. You don't want your kids to watch it, stop them. Restricting the freedom of everyone is unacceptable
- kelseyfrog 3y ago
  It makes them feel bad when other people do it. Combined with a majority in govt, the results are predictable.
- otabdeveloper4 3y ago
  > You don't like racism and homophobia then don't visit these sites. Restricting the freedom of everone is unacceptable Nno no no bros, not like that. (I'll show myself out.)
  - honkycat 3y ago
    yes I would sincerely argue this. What are you even trying to say? Is that not how it works currently? Freaking chud-brains lol.
  - themitigating 3y ago
    Racism and homophobia aren't banned so what is your argument? If you don't like racism or porn sites don't go to them.

evantbyrne 3y ago

Unfortunately, it isn't just smut on the internet that's being locked down. Red state politicians are doing everything they can to curtail freedom of speech and expression. First it's just about protecting children, then they go after adults. We are already seeing this play out with LGBT rights in other places. I never thought I would see such extreme changes in legal speech take place between red and blue states in my lifetime. The last couple years have been wild.