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The law is: > 72 (9) "Reasonable age verification methods" means verifying that the person seeking to > 73 access the material is 18 years old or
by icegreentea2 3y ago
The law is:
> 72 (9) "Reasonable age verification methods" means verifying that the person seeking to
> 73 access the material is 18 years old or older by using any of the following methods:
> 74 (a) use of a digitized information card as defined in this section;
> 75 (b) verification through an independent, third-party age verification service that
> 76 compares the personal information entered by the individual who is seeking access to the
> 77 material that is available from a commercially available database, or aggregate of databases,
> 78 that is regularly used by government agencies and businesses for the purpose of age and
> 79 identity verification; or
> 80 (c) any commercially reasonable method that relies on public or private transactional
> 81 data to verify the age of the person attempting to access the material.
Edit: For clarity adding the definition of "transactional data" - there's no clever loophole there either. Basically, data mine/data broker shit. Perhaps less maximalist than "just check the ID", but hardly what anyone would consider a meaningfully "minimal" solution either.
> 84 (11) (a) "Transactional data" means a sequence of information that documents an
> 85 exchange, agreement, or transfer between an individual, commercial entity, or third party used
> 86 for the purpose of satisfying a request or event.
> 87 (b) "Transactional data" includes records from mortgage, education, and employment
> 88 entities.
- NotYourLawyer 3y ago“Any commercially reasonable method” is honestly about as minimal as I can imagine a law like this being.
- robertlagrant 3y agoIs this much different to a shop needing ID to sell a pornographic magazine, to avoid selling it to a minor?
- jdiff 3y agoDon't need an ID to buy a tablet. Or a used phone. Or back in the day, a Nintendo DS or PSP even. I'm sure I still have a PSP Memory Stick around here someone with saucy pixel art stashed away in the bookmarks. This is a genie that hasn't been in a bottle since the internet was born and it won't be put back in one now. At least not like this.
- robertlagrant 3y agoI don't see how that relates to whether or not this is a maximalist approach.
- jdiff 3y agoIt relates to the question you asked, there's a difference between a physical store and a website, and the difference between uploading a copy of your ID to a porn website and letting a cashier glance at your ID for a moment is substantial. Porn is accessible on the open web. You can't plug all the leaks or even most of them, it's just not possible to put the genie back in its pre-internet bottle. Smut is out there and if sought, it will be found.
- robertlagrant 3y agoI'm not saying there's no difference. I'm saying it doesn't seem like a maximalist approach. Both a website and a cashier could choose to not record your ID.
- DoItToMe81 3y agoShowing your ID isn't something that can be stored and leaked later. It also doesn't have the same stifling effect on speech that a normalized internet ID would have. They're two fundamentally different things.
- Auracle 3y agoSure, but the store wouldn’t keep a database keeping track of exactly what porn you bought. It’s also like having stores check IDs when other porn is just floating by on the wind with regularity. Even if all of the major porn websites did checks there’s still Twitter, Telegram, Reddit, Google/Bing image search, torrents…
- robertlagrant 3y ago> It’s also like having stores check IDs when other porn is just floating by on the wind with regularity I suppose this does indeed happen, if you count the internet as the wind.
- sjducb 3y agoUse of advertising cookies to estimate the users age is missing. Using advertising cookies is probably the most like real life. You look at a user and guess their age. If they might be under 18 you check ID