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South Korea: population of 51.7 million, annual population growth rate -0.2%. Vanishing from the world map isn't quite imminent. They could simply let in 100,0
by pavlov 4y ago
South Korea: population of 51.7 million, annual population growth rate -0.2%. Vanishing from the world map isn't quite imminent.
They could simply let in 100,000 immigrants to fix the growth rate. I know it's not as simple as that in a society like Korea's, but 100k is perfectly manageable for such a large country. Take primarily young people with some useful level of education. They'll work, learn the language, marry, and start new families that become primarily Korean.
- istinetz 4y agoThis -0.2% figure you're citing is hiding rapidly aging population. TFR is 0.8. They'd have to let in about half a million immigrants, every year.
- throwawaywu 4y agoUnless the immigrants adopt Korean culture, then even then, Korea won't exist.
- zo1 4y agoSo we should rather be saying that America and Canada and Sweden won't exist?
- 908B64B197 4y ago> Canada and Sweden Both of these countries now have ethnical enclaves, thanks to multiculturalism. So I'd say yes.
- axus 4y agoThink like a state. No surplus population means that soldiers aren't disposable. No disposable soldiers might lead to vanishing from the world map. According to Google, Russia's rate is -0.4%, this might be the last war they can afford. China didn't end their one-child policy out of a great love for children.
- FrankyZunim 4y agoWhere is South Korea supposed to find 100,000 South Koreans to immigrate?
- ben_w 4y agoAs I read the suggestion, they don't have to be Korean (not needing to already be the nationality before arriving is generally true for most immigrants). But if they did, and for whatever reason none of those who has emigrated from Korea wanted to go back to the old country, there's a whole extra Korea just on the northern border, and they used to be the same country…
- pavlov 4y agoLike other immigrants around the world, they gradually become Koreans when they work, learn the language, marry, have children, and spend the rest of their lives there. (Of course South Korea's case is very particular because they actually have an enormous reserve of eager potential immigrants who already speak the language, living just across their land border, an hour away from Seoul. The problem is that the other side of the border won't let anyone go.)
- FrankyZunim 4y ago[flagged]
- pavlov 4y agoThat's a problem of attitude, not genetics. A person born in Korea can become American, British, Swedish, Singaporean, Brazilian, etc. There's no fundamental reason why it wouldn't work the other way if Koreans wanted their society to be open to newcomers. With shrinking population they may want to have that national conversation eventually. Anyway, when you bring in young single people, the primary cultural diffusion is through their eventual children. They will be Korean in a way that the immigrant parent might never personally feel.
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- sjducb 4y agoPopulation decline happens much faster than you intuitively expect. Each generation is slightly smaller than the one before it. Current fertility rate in Korea is 0.78/woman Gen1 = 100 Gen2 = 78 Gen3 = 60 Gen3 = 46
- istinetz 4y agoYou need 2 people for a couple. So it would be Gen 1 - 100, Gen 2 - 39, Gen 3 - 16, Gen 4 - 6