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What ways are there to verify age online other than photo IDs? Real question, I am not familiar with this area. When I google, I find several third-party "age

What ways are there to verify age online other than photo IDs? Real question, I am not familiar with this area. When I google, I find several third-party "age verification as a service" services. Their marketing isn't always clear about what they actually do, but I think they all look like they get photo ID (not sure if they do anything to try to confirm the person sending the ID is that person). Their pricing is also not generally public.

rtpg 4y ago
One example: in Japan cell phone operators provide a mechanism by which you can OAuth into their system, and then they will tell you whether the user is over 18 or not. This lets Line age-restrict "become friends with random people online" functionality.
- Someone1234 4y ago
  That doesn't scale well. How does it expand to PCs, SmartTVs, tablets, games consoles, etc?
  - rtpg 4y ago
    User account associated to a phone number is a common tactic. Phone numbers serving as a proxy for identity is more and more of a thing. People might talk about burner phones, but many localities never really had burner phones in the first place (Japan doesn't give a phone number on travel SIMs, there's "no way" to have a phone number without getting your ID checked somewhere), and other localities are tightening the grip on this. It's not a universally nice and open solution. But it's probably one most markets will bear
- jrochkind1 4y ago
  That's interesting, and I have some questions about it. But doesn't currently seem to be available for complying with the Utah law. I was interested in ways that would be practical for pornhub to use, operating not just in Japan, and especially in the USA. The GP's comment made me wonder if they had some in mind, that could be used to comply with the Utah law.
Mashimo 4y ago
Government SSO / 2FA, similar to MitID / NemID in Denmark. Could you make a SSO where the website owner just gets a true / false bool back from the SSO? :thinking:

rtpg 4y ago

One example: in Japan cell phone operators provide a mechanism by which you can OAuth into their system, and then they will tell you whether the user is over 18 or not. This lets Line age-restrict "become friends with random people online" functionality.

Someone1234 4y ago
That doesn't scale well. How does it expand to PCs, SmartTVs, tablets, games consoles, etc?
- rtpg 4y ago
  User account associated to a phone number is a common tactic. Phone numbers serving as a proxy for identity is more and more of a thing. People might talk about burner phones, but many localities never really had burner phones in the first place (Japan doesn't give a phone number on travel SIMs, there's "no way" to have a phone number without getting your ID checked somewhere), and other localities are tightening the grip on this. It's not a universally nice and open solution. But it's probably one most markets will bear
jrochkind1 4y ago
That's interesting, and I have some questions about it. But doesn't currently seem to be available for complying with the Utah law. I was interested in ways that would be practical for pornhub to use, operating not just in Japan, and especially in the USA. The GP's comment made me wonder if they had some in mind, that could be used to comply with the Utah law.

Mashimo 4y ago

Government SSO / 2FA, similar to MitID / NemID in Denmark. Could you make a SSO where the website owner just gets a true / false bool back from the SSO? :thinking: