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I don't agree there's more to it than random firings, but only in the sense they aren't quite random at all. For the rest I do still think there's nothing more
by stinos 3y ago
I don't agree there's more to it than random firings, but only in the sense they aren't quite random at all. For the rest I do still think there's nothing more to it than that. The biochemistry behind psychedelics is fairly well-researched and can be explained, so while there is a random component to it just like there are variations in, say, how people perceive color, I do still belive that's really all there is to it, just hallucinations (both sensory and mentally). No matter how in touch one might feel with whatever mystic stuff out there, no matter how profound it might feel, I've yet to see any evidence whatsoever of that somehow proving there effectively is something out there. Doesn't matter those feelings are very real, but it's just.. feelings.
- leroy-is-here 3y agoThe science of keeping humans healthy is fairly well researched and can also be explained, but that same science cannot convey the experience of being healthy.
- eimrine 3y agoThat leads to the outcome that your statement "The science of keeping humans healthy is fairly well researched" is false. Actually it is the least researched field among the most important, in my humble opinion.
- leroy-is-here 3y agoNo, it doesn’t. Because the study of health and the being of health are separate topics entirely.
- eimrine 3y ago> the study of health and the being of health are separate topics entirely I would rather say that your statements in this particular topic and wise statements per se are separate things entirely and what you have just claimed is not at all.
- leroy-is-here 3y agoI'm not sure what you mean exactly by this, but I think I understand a little. The reason why the study of health is separate than the being of health is that the being requires time and experience. I cannot convey how I feel when I eat clean, lift well, read a lot, and socialize often, but I can say that I feel "happy" or "good" and give you a list of steps to achieve that state. This essence of "lossy transmission" is simply our reality.
- arolihas 3y agoA lot of people either seem to not understand that science is focused on testable models of phenomenon and not the actual phenomenon itself, or they refuse to believe any such meaningful distinction exists.
- mistermann 3y ago> No matter how in touch one might feel with whatever mystic stuff out there, no matter how profound it might feel, I've yet to see any evidence whatsoever of that somehow proving there effectively is something out there. Doesn't matter those feelings are very real, but it's just.. feelings. Do you have a pretty diverse range of experiences on psychedelics backing this up?
- stinos 3y ago'back up' is a bit hard because of the anecdotal nature, but for me this is just the most logical explanation and as said: I have yet to see even the slightest piece of scientific evidence pointing to something else. Whereas there's enough of science supporting the way I think. I remain skeptical of course, though it's more of a 'I want to belive' type of thing.
- mistermann 3y ago> 'back up' is a bit hard because of the anecdotal nature, but for me this is just the most logical explanation "The most 'logical' explanation" is very often a function of psychedelic usage (and various other experiences one may have had, or not). > and as said: I have yet to see even the slightest piece of scientific evidence pointing to something else. Whereas there's enough of science supporting the way I think. In actual science, an abscence of evidence is not proof of abscence though. > I remain skeptical of course, though it's more of a 'I want to belive' type of thing. For both sides!