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In other news, VPN subscription sales explode in Utah! easy sales opportunity

awill88 3y ago
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thebooktocome 3y ago
What’s weird is, from my reading of the law in question, a minor using either a VPN or a stolen ID card to access PornHub is a violation. . . for PornHub. That seems a little wonky to me.
- mumblemumble 3y ago
  Similar to FOSTA-SESTA, I'd guess that de facto recriminalizing sex work is largely seen as, at an absolute minimum, a happy side effect by the bill's authors.
  - ttpphd 3y ago
    Spot on comparison!
- Szpadel 3y ago
  you can just enable the camera and show your ID and someone on the other side will check if that's you /s
- denton-scratch 3y ago
  From my reading, this is just another attempt to bypass 1st Amendment by allowing a civil suit against a porn-merchant by members of the public: if the entity imposing censorship isn't the government, then it doesn't fall foul of the 1st.
stinos 3y ago
My guess would be: more visitors to <insert any other easily accessible porn site or download client here> from Utah?
- mabbo 3y ago
  You would be surprised how many are owned by the same parent company as Pornhub. Mindgeek own a massive amount of the internet's porn.
  - capableweb 3y ago
    Is the (self-imposed) block Mindgeek-wide or just PornHub? Judging by the articles about it, it seems to just be PornHub (for now).
- dspillett 3y ago
  Yes. Though I suspect a lot of users know the site by reputation and may not specifically know others other than indirectly when they search (google/bing) or are linked to them from elsewhere (reddit, etc.). For those people the constant VPN advertising via sponsorship of podcasts and youtube channels will attract a number of users. The other porn sites can't advertise in those mediums.
worldsavior 3y ago
Damn they're gonna be rich.
LinuxBender 3y ago
I was thinking about this. Do sites like Pornhub use DRM in their players? Asking because AFAIK browsers will pass a network ID that does not change when DRM is used. In Firefox it is in "about:networking#networkid" and they don't make it easy to change that. I believe Chrome has something similar. I think it also uses serial numbers? Could be I am mixing up identifiers used in DRM vs. browser specific integrations.
- michaelmior 3y ago
  I'm not sure that's relevant. I assume you're suggesting that a user who had accessed the site from Utah could be perpetually flagged as someone who should be blocked. However, that would mean visitors to Utah or anyone no longer residing there could be permanently blacklisted unnecessarily.
  - LinuxBender 3y ago
    I'm not actually sure what I am suggesting to be honest. I just had these little voices in the back of my head saying to finish researching the various identifiers used by DRM. And I think you are right, if such things were used then people might have to prove they moved and it would be a PITA for everyone involved.
- hgsgm 3y ago
  This is part of Pornhub's counterproposal: Verify user ID on client side, pair with deice, and approve device ID for adult services.
- loeg 3y ago
  I don't believe they use DRM.
sambull 3y ago
My EARN IT Not a VPN traffic mover is in stealth mode

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What’s weird is, from my reading of the law in question, a minor using either a VPN or a stolen ID card to access PornHub is a violation. . . for PornHub. That seems a little wonky to me.

mumblemumble 3y ago
Similar to FOSTA-SESTA, I'd guess that de facto recriminalizing sex work is largely seen as, at an absolute minimum, a happy side effect by the bill's authors.
- ttpphd 3y ago
  Spot on comparison!
Szpadel 3y ago
you can just enable the camera and show your ID and someone on the other side will check if that's you /s
denton-scratch 3y ago
From my reading, this is just another attempt to bypass 1st Amendment by allowing a civil suit against a porn-merchant by members of the public: if the entity imposing censorship isn't the government, then it doesn't fall foul of the 1st.

stinos 3y ago

My guess would be: more visitors to <insert any other easily accessible porn site or download client here> from Utah?

mabbo 3y ago
You would be surprised how many are owned by the same parent company as Pornhub. Mindgeek own a massive amount of the internet's porn.
- capableweb 3y ago
  Is the (self-imposed) block Mindgeek-wide or just PornHub? Judging by the articles about it, it seems to just be PornHub (for now).
dspillett 3y ago
Yes. Though I suspect a lot of users know the site by reputation and may not specifically know others other than indirectly when they search (google/bing) or are linked to them from elsewhere (reddit, etc.). For those people the constant VPN advertising via sponsorship of podcasts and youtube channels will attract a number of users. The other porn sites can't advertise in those mediums.

worldsavior 3y ago

Damn they're gonna be rich.

LinuxBender 3y ago

I was thinking about this. Do sites like Pornhub use DRM in their players? Asking because AFAIK browsers will pass a network ID that does not change when DRM is used. In Firefox it is in "about:networking#networkid" and they don't make it easy to change that. I believe Chrome has something similar. I think it also uses serial numbers? Could be I am mixing up identifiers used in DRM vs. browser specific integrations.

michaelmior 3y ago
I'm not sure that's relevant. I assume you're suggesting that a user who had accessed the site from Utah could be perpetually flagged as someone who should be blocked. However, that would mean visitors to Utah or anyone no longer residing there could be permanently blacklisted unnecessarily.
- LinuxBender 3y ago
  I'm not actually sure what I am suggesting to be honest. I just had these little voices in the back of my head saying to finish researching the various identifiers used by DRM. And I think you are right, if such things were used then people might have to prove they moved and it would be a PITA for everyone involved.
hgsgm 3y ago
This is part of Pornhub's counterproposal: Verify user ID on client side, pair with deice, and approve device ID for adult services.
loeg 3y ago
I don't believe they use DRM.

sambull 3y ago

My EARN IT Not a VPN traffic mover is in stealth mode