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My experience is that there are lots of BS consulting jobs where I would wonder “what do these 10 people do?” This included lots of offshoring companies, like
by prepend 4y ago
My experience is that there are lots of BS consulting jobs where I would wonder “what do these 10 people do?”
This included lots of offshoring companies, like IBM, that seemed more about filling out whatever the budget sheet given to them than actually making software or even any evidence of software (commits, issues, etc).
I expect that there are firms out there right now using ChatGPT to produce the facade of work so instead of messing around and billing 8 hours times 30 people every day, they just have a few people fiddling with prompts and checking in the generated text.
I actually think this might have the same impact but would hope that the value just goes back to the client in having employees do the AI work directly.
The joke was that behind every successful offshore project was one or two really busy onshore engineers manically covering and integrating work from the away team.
- soco 4y agoThe question is, can IBM place those consultants at customers and get paid for them? Then they're definitely not "BS jobs" for IBM. They might be BS for the person interacting directly with them, yes, but I see no reason for IBM to reduce them.
- isoos 4y agoI know a company that already reaches test coverage metric goals by feeding chatgpt with code that they need test for. These are tests based on mocks, running trivial things, providing little to no value to the overall codebase. But if the requirements are garbage, the delivered items will be garbage too.
- moffkalast 4y agoConsulting jobs are largely bullshit because their main role is to be a corporate mercenary that makes up solid data supporting the direction that management wants to go. Their job is weaponizing confirmation bias. Relevant: https://twitter.com/ConsultingHumor https://twitter.com/ConsultingHumor
- jiggawatts 4y agoThat's unfair and inaccurate. We also serve as convenient scape goats in case risky projects go bad.
- hgsgm 4y agoThat's Management Consulting. Tech consulting is building expensive boondoggles.
- giantrobot 4y agoAbstractBoondoggle boondoggle = new AbstractBoondoggleFactory()
- a4isms 4y agoThor's Law: As the length of a thread about software design increases, the probability of someone mentioning a "general-purpose tool-building factory factory factory" approaches one. Including the act of quoting Thor's Law. ——— https://www.danstroot.com/posts/2018-10-03-hammer-factories https://www.danstroot.com/posts/2018-10-03-hammer-factories
- moffkalast 4y agoAmazing read. And I'm stealing that "Library: you call it. Framework: it calls you." quote. Though in reality does that mean that the guy bought a metal 3D printer?
- 908B64B197 4y ago> The joke was that behind every successful offshore project was one or two really busy onshore engineers manically covering and integrating work from the away team. To me, ChatGPT's output is indistinguishable from what I've seen offshored coders produce. Only difference is you get the results in 30 seconds in a chat window instead of overnight in a zip file emailed to you. There are whole businesses here in America that only do rewrites for offshored projects.
- _ea1k 4y ago> The joke was that behind every successful offshore project was one or two really busy onshore engineers manically covering and integrating work from the away team. After getting ChatGPT to write some code for me, this could happen again except with AI instead of an outsourced team. So far, it understands the requirements better and writes pretty good code on average. Its unit tests are pretty good too. It always requires some fixes and integration, of course.