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Saying that DevOps tooling changes every year is absolute nonsense. The tooling is fairly standardised nowadays (Docker, Kubernetes, Ansible, Terraform, Prometh

Saying that DevOps tooling changes every year is absolute nonsense. The tooling is fairly standardised nowadays (Docker, Kubernetes, Ansible, Terraform, Prometheus, CI/CD tool of your choice) and every part of it is over half a decade old. ChatGPT will only help you with the simplest of tasks, and even then you're gonna fail if you don't know to correct it. If you go beyond the most basic of the tasks you can learn how to do in a few hours, good luck fitting them in a chat prompt.

rolisz 3y ago
The comolexity of Docker I've needed over the last 5 years definitely could have been solved by ChatGPT. The amount of Kubernetes I needed was probably more than what ChatGPT can solve, but at the same time, I spent an awful amount of time looking at various templating solutions.
duckmysick 3y ago
I'm not sure about standardized tooling. Docker is being replaced with Podman. Supposedly a drop-in replacement, but the tools built for Docker don't play nicely. You have Ansible, but there's also Puppet, Salt, Chef. There's Terraform and also CDKTF (from the same company too), Pulumi, plus tools from each cloud provider. There's Prometheus and Nagios, Datadog, Sentry, New Relic. The irony of CI/CD tool of your choice is not lost on me. I'll give you Kubernetes itself as the system. Yes, the concepts (containers, orchestration, reproducible deployment, infrastructure as code, unified monitoring, continuous integration) are well-established. How you get there? Not at all. Yes, the OP was hyperbolic when claimed the tools change every year. But the landscape of devop tools is changing. There are dozens of dev tool companies funded in the 2023 winter batch of Y Combinator alone. Someone sees potential to disrupt the established tools. And it will be disrupted. There was a world before Kubernetes and Terraform. It wasn't that long ago. https://www.ycombinator.com/companies?batch=W23&tags=Developer%20Tools https://www.ycombinator.com/companies?batch=W23&tags=Develop...
sebastiennight 3y ago
Well, you say > Saying that DevOps tooling changes every year is absolute nonsense. And then you list 5 technologies with an alleged lifespan of half a decade, which sort of hints at the idea that someone would need to learn/update a new tooling skillset once a year. In that light, GP's comment doesn't sound so wild.
navane 3y ago
over half a decade old! haha, so assuming you don't use it the day it comes out, but after a couple of years, most people have only used it a couple of years. Unless you've only worked a couple of years, you've gone trough a couple of these.

rolisz 3y ago

The comolexity of Docker I've needed over the last 5 years definitely could have been solved by ChatGPT. The amount of Kubernetes I needed was probably more than what ChatGPT can solve, but at the same time, I spent an awful amount of time looking at various templating solutions.

duckmysick 3y ago

I'm not sure about standardized tooling. Docker is being replaced with Podman. Supposedly a drop-in replacement, but the tools built for Docker don't play nicely. You have Ansible, but there's also Puppet, Salt, Chef. There's Terraform and also CDKTF (from the same company too), Pulumi, plus tools from each cloud provider. There's Prometheus and Nagios, Datadog, Sentry, New Relic. The irony of CI/CD tool of your choice is not lost on me. I'll give you Kubernetes itself as the system. Yes, the concepts (containers, orchestration, reproducible deployment, infrastructure as code, unified monitoring, continuous integration) are well-established. How you get there? Not at all. Yes, the OP was hyperbolic when claimed the tools change every year. But the landscape of devop tools is changing. There are dozens of dev tool companies funded in the 2023 winter batch of Y Combinator alone. Someone sees potential to disrupt the established tools. And it will be disrupted. There was a world before Kubernetes and Terraform. It wasn't that long ago. https://www.ycombinator.com/companies?batch=W23&tags=Developer%20Tools https://www.ycombinator.com/companies?batch=W23&tags=Develop...

sebastiennight 3y ago

Well, you say > Saying that DevOps tooling changes every year is absolute nonsense. And then you list 5 technologies with an alleged lifespan of half a decade, which sort of hints at the idea that someone would need to learn/update a new tooling skillset once a year. In that light, GP's comment doesn't sound so wild.

navane 3y ago

over half a decade old! haha, so assuming you don't use it the day it comes out, but after a couple of years, most people have only used it a couple of years. Unless you've only worked a couple of years, you've gone trough a couple of these.