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I am on the way back to be a dark matter developer. The last 3 - 4 years i use the shiny new tech things and i feel like i fall from one black whole to the nex

by progx 3y ago

I am on the way back to be a dark matter developer. The last 3 - 4 years i use the shiny new tech things and i feel like i fall from one black whole to the next. Most of the time i fix things of shiny new things. These new things fixing problems, that was solved 20 years ago from dark matter developers. But hey, we have cool bloggers and facebookers, they told us, that these things are cool and a really joy to work with. Haha, they don't now anything. You know things like hydration, "islands", SSR, yes right, things that we use 20 years ago. And now we are back here again, but wasted huge amount of time, reinventing 20 times the wheel. Dark matter developers, you have done everything right!

criddell 3y ago
> Dark matter developers, you have done everything right! The article is from 2012. I wonder if the author's opinion has changed much since then? It does seem that we don't pay enough attention to making things that we can keep running and improving for decades. These days I really favor mature tech. Things that have stood the test of time. I have a lot of respect for things like Java and Ruby on Rails and even Windows COM.
- progx 3y ago
  And since 2012 we accelerate in the wrong direction. I wish i saw this article 2012, it could have saved me a lot ;-)
- oaiey 3y ago
  No he did not. He used the terminology into at least 2020. Scott Hanselman is a very prominent figure in the .NET ecosystem and speaks in tons of places. And .NET has a core problem in exactly that space: They have a huge (profitable) market of black matter developers who like X (e.g. a visual designer) and a open source community which asks for Y (e.g. WebAssembly support). So .NET is always ripped apart between the Enterprise centric analysis (MS has agreements with big companies to analyze their code usage) and the analysis from the GitHub issue trackers.
avgDev 3y ago
I guess I am dark matter dev. I comment on HN but nowhere else really. I enjoy programming and have solo build systems that run businesses. However, there is so much stuff that interests me outside of programming that I don't care to commit time for projects that may never bring any value to my life. I'm also sick of the internet machine and all the hype about some tech. I got burned by picking up something new after hearing about it on social media. Many times the YouTube tutorials are so basic that as soon as you start implementing that tech you discover bugs, lack of docs. All new tech sucks when you are trying to "get stuff done". I had discovered bugs in books and was literally stuck for days trying to figure out how to resolve them and SO would return no solutions.

by progx 3y ago

criddell 3y ago

> Dark matter developers, you have done everything right! The article is from 2012. I wonder if the author's opinion has changed much since then? It does seem that we don't pay enough attention to making things that we can keep running and improving for decades. These days I really favor mature tech. Things that have stood the test of time. I have a lot of respect for things like Java and Ruby on Rails and even Windows COM.

progx 3y ago
And since 2012 we accelerate in the wrong direction. I wish i saw this article 2012, it could have saved me a lot ;-)
oaiey 3y ago
No he did not. He used the terminology into at least 2020. Scott Hanselman is a very prominent figure in the .NET ecosystem and speaks in tons of places. And .NET has a core problem in exactly that space: They have a huge (profitable) market of black matter developers who like X (e.g. a visual designer) and a open source community which asks for Y (e.g. WebAssembly support). So .NET is always ripped apart between the Enterprise centric analysis (MS has agreements with big companies to analyze their code usage) and the analysis from the GitHub issue trackers.

avgDev 3y ago

I guess I am dark matter dev. I comment on HN but nowhere else really. I enjoy programming and have solo build systems that run businesses. However, there is so much stuff that interests me outside of programming that I don't care to commit time for projects that may never bring any value to my life. I'm also sick of the internet machine and all the hype about some tech. I got burned by picking up something new after hearing about it on social media. Many times the YouTube tutorials are so basic that as soon as you start implementing that tech you discover bugs, lack of docs. All new tech sucks when you are trying to "get stuff done". I had discovered bugs in books and was literally stuck for days trying to figure out how to resolve them and SO would return no solutions.