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I don't understand why Vice is hated here so much. Yes, they have dopey "stoner" content, like Buzzfeed did with their vapid original content. But like Buzzfeed

I don't understand why Vice is hated here so much. Yes, they have dopey "stoner" content, like Buzzfeed did with their vapid original content. But like Buzzfeed, they have been doing serious journalism, getting unique interviews with heads of state, adversaries, and in war zones. Just today, they released this interview in Moscow with the Russian lady wanted by the International Criminal Court for deporting kids from Ukraine: https://youtu.be/Ei4xLdv2gYE https://youtu.be/Ei4xLdv2gYE Among other good ones involving Ukraine, Russia, Taliban, etc. Taliban Rule: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIFi_Rgm-T8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIFi_Rgm-T8 Ukrainian soldiers' lives before the invasion of Ukraine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKAt56zW0-g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKAt56zW0-g Siege of Ukrainian Bakhmut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lpe1OgCbCY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lpe1OgCbCY and the all too crazy bride kidnapping that happens in Kyrgyzstan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKAusMNTNnk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKAusMNTNnk

HellDunkel 3y ago
Thanks for sharing these links. I just watched one of them and it is some great reporting. Problem with vice is that they have been mixing serious reporting with trash, jackass plain nonsense. I remember this going on since the first time i encountered the print magazine. It seems as they are just aiming for the crass, no matter if there was substance of not and it ruined them in the end- rightfully so.
- qup 3y ago
  Reminds me of how every time I google a video game tip I wind up reading it on forbes.com of all places
- shp0ngle 3y ago
  > mixing serious reporting with trash, jackass plain nonsense That has been their modus operandi from almost day one, though. I just think they haven't figured the financing out. These reportings are still quite expensive, they don't want to go subscription-based, and when you look at the view counts, they are not that big really. You cannot finance all that just from YouTube ads, as the money then mosty go to Google.

HellDunkel 3y ago

Thanks for sharing these links. I just watched one of them and it is some great reporting. Problem with vice is that they have been mixing serious reporting with trash, jackass plain nonsense. I remember this going on since the first time i encountered the print magazine. It seems as they are just aiming for the crass, no matter if there was substance of not and it ruined them in the end- rightfully so.

qup 3y ago
Reminds me of how every time I google a video game tip I wind up reading it on forbes.com of all places
shp0ngle 3y ago
> mixing serious reporting with trash, jackass plain nonsense That has been their modus operandi from almost day one, though. I just think they haven't figured the financing out. These reportings are still quite expensive, they don't want to go subscription-based, and when you look at the view counts, they are not that big really. You cannot finance all that just from YouTube ads, as the money then mosty go to Google.