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I really can't stand this company and it's business model. It preys on inexperienced engineers, locks them into an ecosystem of SaaS products that abstracts awa

I really can't stand this company and it's business model. It preys on inexperienced engineers, locks them into an ecosystem of SaaS products that abstracts away important concepts they should learn, and charges an absolutely absurd premium while doing it. No serious company is ever going to use these criminally expensive software, so it's quite clear what their target market is. Unfortunately, they have such a strong hold of the Twitter and Youtube space with their army of cringey influencers. This company does nothing but a disservice to the next generation of web developers. Really a shame.

mhoad 3y ago
This managed to encapsulate something that has been in the tip of my tongue ever since I first encountered them. That company is just a sea of red flags to me.
- dbbk 3y ago
  The Apple iPhone reveal styled announcement videos are also just absurd. Today, we are reinventing the web!
rykuno 3y ago
> It preys on inexperienced engineers For a weekend/side project that needs db and storage, why would I spend days correctly setting up, securing, and provisioning all my infra when I could just pay a little extra and never worry about it? When creating a new project I wear all hats. Project management, UX/UI designing, Frontend, Backend, Infra, User testing, security. Having to maintain multiple projects that all bring income in as a solo developer wearing all the hats is very time consuming, this is an absolute godsend and I'll pay for the DX happily.
- ncphillips 3y ago
  I definitely agree with this But also I just started a side project with Rails. I got a CI/CD production environment with GitHub Actions, Postgres, Redis, sidekiq, and storage on Fly.io in an hour or two. The thing that makes me more comfortable here is that none of my application code references Fly.io at all. If the project needs to grow beyond Fly I just change some environment variables and migrate the data.

mhoad 3y ago

This managed to encapsulate something that has been in the tip of my tongue ever since I first encountered them. That company is just a sea of red flags to me.

dbbk 3y ago
The Apple iPhone reveal styled announcement videos are also just absurd. Today, we are reinventing the web!

rykuno 3y ago

> It preys on inexperienced engineers For a weekend/side project that needs db and storage, why would I spend days correctly setting up, securing, and provisioning all my infra when I could just pay a little extra and never worry about it? When creating a new project I wear all hats. Project management, UX/UI designing, Frontend, Backend, Infra, User testing, security. Having to maintain multiple projects that all bring income in as a solo developer wearing all the hats is very time consuming, this is an absolute godsend and I'll pay for the DX happily.

ncphillips 3y ago
I definitely agree with this But also I just started a side project with Rails. I got a CI/CD production environment with GitHub Actions, Postgres, Redis, sidekiq, and storage on Fly.io in an hour or two. The thing that makes me more comfortable here is that none of my application code references Fly.io at all. If the project needs to grow beyond Fly I just change some environment variables and migrate the data.