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On the other hand it feels like there's been a huge money grab with automated systems mailing out tickets or maybe I'm just at sore at the $180 red light camera
by djmips 4y ago
On the other hand it feels like there's been a huge money grab with automated systems mailing out tickets or maybe I'm just at sore at the $180 red light camera ticket I just paid.
- KennyBlanken 4y agoRed light cameras are proven to reduce the most dangerous intersection crashes (T-bones) at the expense of a slight increase in rear-end collisions (which are the fault of the second driver for following too closely, and likely both drivers for speeding.) Before anyone starts bleating about companies changing cycle times: that's only happened in a few areas and most municipalities and states have caught on to the scam. It's an easy legislative fix to require light timings be based off federal standards, which they should be anyway.
- nsxwolf 4y agoThey fill me full of dread and anxiety. Surely that reduces life expectancy?
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- nine_k 4y agoLikely not as much as a risk of an F150 ramming into the side of your car?
- travisporter 4y agoI paid 700 bucks at a red light camera in the middle of an empty intersection at 2pm on a Saturday in Culver City, CA. It came out of nowhere. It felt like an obvious money grab
- loeg 4y agoDid you run the red?
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- WheatMillington 4y agoDid you run the red just because it was quiet, or do you normally just run reds?
- travisporter 4y agoYeah I normally run red lights. I’m trying to fight the system. It definitely wasn’t because I was taking the GRE the following monday and I wanted to scope the place out. I like the stress of my parents getting a ticket in my life. Also a couple months after, then Culver City stopped the red light traffic camera program
- mock-possum 4y agoThe red light came out of nowhere? How fast were you going?
- TheDudeMan 4y agoDid you run a red light?
- King-Aaron 4y agoI am absolutely not a fan of fixed or hidden speed cameras, but red light cameras are legitimately good because you have zero reason or excuse to go through a red or speed through an intersection.
- KennyBlanken 4y agoYou have zero reason or excuse to be speeding, other than personal selfishness.
- anonymousiam 4y agoWhat about speed limits that were created for the purpose of revenue generation and not safety? One example: https://www.speedtrap.org/california/lone-pine/ https://www.speedtrap.org/california/lone-pine/
- arp242 4y agoComplaining about "going 90mph on a 65mph speed limit" is not a "speed trap"; a speed trap is a situation set up in such a way that many well-intentioned people make an honest mistake. Things like confusing signage, sudden and/or unusual change in the speed limit, and so forth. This is just someone sour because they got caught speeding. For reference 90 mph is 145 km/h, it's pretty fast, and the limit in CA seems to be 70 mph at the most. Driving at 90mph is always wrong unless you are rushing someone to the hospital or similar emergencies.
- x3n0ph3n3 4y agoOne issue has been jurisdictions shortening the length of yellow lights in order to catch people running the red light as a means of revenue generation.
- prawn 4y agoShould that be a federal standard? Is it in most modern countries?
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- mjevans 4y agoTraffic enforcement should REQUIRE a police officer to be physically present at the time of the incident OR a retroactive issue related to an accident that happened. The officer's presence would encourage safer driving at problematic intersections.
- loeg 4y agoThere aren't enough cops to go around.
- trgn 4y agoI don't get this line of reasoning. A police officer doesn't need to be present for code enforcement (ie. property inspections etc..). A police officer doesn't need to be present for parking enforcement. A police officer doesn't need to be present for toll fee collection enforcement. Why should police then be present when violating traffic rules? What makes speeding or running a red light so meaningfully special that its enforcement cannot be automated, but violating parking rules can be? > The officer's presence would encourage safer driving at problematic intersections. Cameras would be the exact same type of encouragement, and not be nearly as disruptive or dangerous as a cop pulling someone over. What gives?
- mjevans 4y agoCameras are treated as revenue streams, not safety improvement devices. That's the cover story that's sold to the public, and then it's not unheard of for the light timings to be adjusted to increase revenues rather than promote safety at the intersection. If an office is stated at an intersection it is an important issue. Similar in spirit to warrants as an important step in violating people's privacy.
- trgn 4y ago> Cameras are treated as revenue streams But that's just like your opinion man. > not safety improvement devices. But they are. Speed and red light cameras reduce injury and death. I want myself and my family to live in a city where we won't get randomly murdered or maimed. The carrot isn't working on drivers, it's time for the stick. > Similar to warrants It's not at all. A warrant is invasion of somebody's home because executive power has reason to belief crime is going on. A speed camera invades no-ones privacy, and just registers violations of traffic rules.