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> In any event, you make a good case that can be extended: If the companies throwing endless processing at LLMs can't even conceive of a way to prioritize injec

> In any event, you make a good case that can be extended: If the companies throwing endless processing at LLMs can't even conceive of a way to prioritize injection threats thought up by humans, how would they even notice LLMs injecting each other or themselves for nefarious purposes? I would love to read press articles that dove into this. There's a way of talking about more future-facing concerns that doesn't give people the impression that GPT-4 is magic but instead makes the much more persuasive point: holy crud these are the companies that are going to be in charge of building more advanced iterations? There is no world where a company that ignores prompt injection solves alignment.

noduerme 4y ago
Dan, from a purely realpolitik standpoint, these companies don't even want to be implicated as having control of their own software now. Any attempt to do so would hinder the mission. The question is... is it even their mission anymore? From a certain perspective, they might already be buying up hardware for an AI who is essentially demanding it from them. In that case the takeoff is happening right now. Dismissing basic security protocols should be totally anathema to devs in the 2020s. That's not "moving fast and breaking things"... a slightly paranoid mind could see it as something else. I think that they (OpenAI, Alphabet) think that the ladder can be climbed by leveraging GPT and LLMs until they have AGI. I think they think whoever gets AGI first takes all the chips off the table and rules the world forever forward. While these endless, idiotic debates happen as to whether GPT is or ever could be "alive" or whatever, they're actively employing it to build the one ring that'll rule them all. And I think the LLM model structure is capable of at least multiplying human intelligence enough to accomplish that over a couple more iterations, if not capable of conceiving the exact problems for itself yet. There's also no real economic incentive to develop AGI that benefits everyone... Sam Altman's strangely evasive remarks to the contrary. There is every incentive to develop one for dominance. The most powerful extant tool to develop AGI right now is GPT-4.

noduerme 4y ago

Dan, from a purely realpolitik standpoint, these companies don't even want to be implicated as having control of their own software now. Any attempt to do so would hinder the mission. The question is... is it even their mission anymore? From a certain perspective, they might already be buying up hardware for an AI who is essentially demanding it from them. In that case the takeoff is happening right now. Dismissing basic security protocols should be totally anathema to devs in the 2020s. That's not "moving fast and breaking things"... a slightly paranoid mind could see it as something else. I think that they (OpenAI, Alphabet) think that the ladder can be climbed by leveraging GPT and LLMs until they have AGI. I think they think whoever gets AGI first takes all the chips off the table and rules the world forever forward. While these endless, idiotic debates happen as to whether GPT is or ever could be "alive" or whatever, they're actively employing it to build the one ring that'll rule them all. And I think the LLM model structure is capable of at least multiplying human intelligence enough to accomplish that over a couple more iterations, if not capable of conceiving the exact problems for itself yet. There's also no real economic incentive to develop AGI that benefits everyone... Sam Altman's strangely evasive remarks to the contrary. There is every incentive to develop one for dominance. The most powerful extant tool to develop AGI right now is GPT-4.