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you really have a strange framing here, given climate change is a real threat. And fighting it isn't something that only Germany is tasked with. btw. it's not

you really have a strange framing here, given climate change is a real threat. And fighting it isn't something that only Germany is tasked with. btw. it's not kids, but grown ups of all ages that are gluing themselves onto streets; in various countries

pxmpxm 3y ago
> climate change is a real threat. I'm rather sure that not being able to afford energy - heat in the winer - is a the real existential threat to a kid in continental Europe. Worrying about sea level going up 10cm in his/her lifetime is a rich person hobby.
- danielheath 3y ago
  > Worrying about sea level going up 10cm in his/her lifetime is a rich person hobby. Worrying about the future past next year is definitely a rich person hobby, if you define "rich" as "not imminently starving". Sea level rise is the least of the trouble. Look at fisheries decline (yield per inflation-adjusted-dollar spent has been recorded for a long time now - in spite of new tech it's been dropping for over a century), temperature-driven crop failures, increased frequency of severe storms damaging infrastructure.
- scythe 3y ago
  Sea level is projected to rise 30 centimeters over the next 30 years. The rate is gradually accelerating, so the coming century will see more than a meter. But the primary near-term risks from climate change are heat damaging crops, (wet) heat killing humans, declining soil moisture in some regions, and increased risk of flooding along some rivers. Over two centuries, coastal cities may be inundated, but that is a long time.
- bumby 3y ago
  Both are real risks, but humans are biased to be disproportionately sensitive to near term risks and tend to underestimate long term risks. In addition, poor people tend to be disproportionately affected.
- rcxdude 3y ago
  It's those above the poverty line but only just that should be worrying most: the rich will likely be mostly fine, it's everyone else who is going to suffer much more from it.
- mgfist 3y ago
  About 200 Germans died in the floods last year - far more than those who died from the cold. And climate change increased both the likeliness and the intensity of the rains. So no, this isn't something rich people will face in 50 years. It's something everyone faces today.

pxmpxm 3y ago

> climate change is a real threat. I'm rather sure that not being able to afford energy - heat in the winer - is a the real existential threat to a kid in continental Europe. Worrying about sea level going up 10cm in his/her lifetime is a rich person hobby.

danielheath 3y ago
> Worrying about sea level going up 10cm in his/her lifetime is a rich person hobby. Worrying about the future past next year is definitely a rich person hobby, if you define "rich" as "not imminently starving". Sea level rise is the least of the trouble. Look at fisheries decline (yield per inflation-adjusted-dollar spent has been recorded for a long time now - in spite of new tech it's been dropping for over a century), temperature-driven crop failures, increased frequency of severe storms damaging infrastructure.
scythe 3y ago
Sea level is projected to rise 30 centimeters over the next 30 years. The rate is gradually accelerating, so the coming century will see more than a meter. But the primary near-term risks from climate change are heat damaging crops, (wet) heat killing humans, declining soil moisture in some regions, and increased risk of flooding along some rivers. Over two centuries, coastal cities may be inundated, but that is a long time.
bumby 3y ago
Both are real risks, but humans are biased to be disproportionately sensitive to near term risks and tend to underestimate long term risks. In addition, poor people tend to be disproportionately affected.
rcxdude 3y ago
It's those above the poverty line but only just that should be worrying most: the rich will likely be mostly fine, it's everyone else who is going to suffer much more from it.
mgfist 3y ago
About 200 Germans died in the floods last year - far more than those who died from the cold. And climate change increased both the likeliness and the intensity of the rains. So no, this isn't something rich people will face in 50 years. It's something everyone faces today.