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Germany has one of the most carbon heavy electric grids in western Europe, https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/DE https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/DE Comp

Germany has one of the most carbon heavy electric grids in western Europe, https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/DE https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/DE Compare them to nuclear heavy, clean France. Your perception has been deceived by marketing. Stop following the news. Follow the data instead.

legulere 3y ago
Electricitymaps is not a reliable source. For instance they calculate PV being produced with 100% coal
Semaphor 3y ago
> Compare them to nuclear heavy, clean France. France is heavily importing German electricity, so that does not work out. Sources are many, but here [0] is a random one from January "German Power Exports to France Surge to Highest in 30 Years" [0]: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-04/how-much-power-does-germany-export-to-france https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-04/how-much-... edit: Edited to remove snark, add source
- dang 3y ago
  Can you please make your substantive points without snark? This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. It looks like you've got an important and relevant point there but if you lead with snark, you'll probably just provoke more flamewar and make the thread more predictable. A better version of this comment would drop the first couple words and then add information to explain what you're talking about and/or how you know it.
  - Semaphor 3y ago
    Noted and edited, reading the same propaganda over and over again is just exhausting.
    - dang 3y ago
      Thanks! That's much better.
- Georgelemental 3y ago
  These imports are in part due to Macron's exceptionally foolish decision to close the Fessenheim nuclear reactor in northeast France (near German border). The reactor had had all the needed upgrades and could have kept working for many years, but instead Macron decided to follow through on an old campaign promise of his universally reviled predecessor.

legulere 3y ago

Electricitymaps is not a reliable source. For instance they calculate PV being produced with 100% coal

Semaphor 3y ago

> Compare them to nuclear heavy, clean France. France is heavily importing German electricity, so that does not work out. Sources are many, but here [0] is a random one from January "German Power Exports to France Surge to Highest in 30 Years" [0]: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-04/how-much-power-does-germany-export-to-france https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-04/how-much-... edit: Edited to remove snark, add source

dang 3y ago
Can you please make your substantive points without snark? This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. It looks like you've got an important and relevant point there but if you lead with snark, you'll probably just provoke more flamewar and make the thread more predictable. A better version of this comment would drop the first couple words and then add information to explain what you're talking about and/or how you know it.
- Semaphor 3y ago
  Noted and edited, reading the same propaganda over and over again is just exhausting.
  - dang 3y ago
    Thanks! That's much better.
Georgelemental 3y ago
These imports are in part due to Macron's exceptionally foolish decision to close the Fessenheim nuclear reactor in northeast France (near German border). The reactor had had all the needed upgrades and could have kept working for many years, but instead Macron decided to follow through on an old campaign promise of his universally reviled predecessor.