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One per person on the planet in a single year? Never preface your talking point with an obviously wrong statistic.

anonymouskimmer 3y ago
That was my gut impulse, too. But then I realized that I've got three laptops. One for personal use, and 2 for jobs. And I think I have my previous two phones in a drawer.
- xboxnolifes 3y ago
  Those previous, now unused, devices didn't become waste in 2022. They became waste when you stopped using them and don't end up ever re-using them.
  - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
    Yes, that addition was a side-response to the linked article.
mb7733 3y ago
Ironic comment considering world population is 8 billion
- rcstank 3y ago
  Not too ironic considering many are too young to have phones, or too poor to have them.
- cjensen 3y ago
  Fair.
  - kurthr 3y ago
    I'm gonna support your point. I'm not buying that 3x more phones were trashed as sold. New cell phone sales are under 2B/year. Industry hoped they would continue rising after 2016, but they've plateaued around 1.8B. Of those about 200M are still flip/dumb phones. Ownership time (in the pipeline) is increasing not falling. I don't believe 5.3B became waste unless many B people suddenly decided to do without (in 2022). That seems unlikely unless it just some random definition of watste. Sure there might even be (8-9 years of production) 16B phones laying around somewhere outside of landfill so why did they become get trashed in '22? Can we blame 3G? https://www.sellcell.com/how-many-mobile-phones-are-sold-each-year/ https://www.sellcell.com/how-many-mobile-phones-are-sold-eac...
- phire 3y ago
  Still, an average of one brand new phone per person every 18 months seems very high. Don't forget that includes almost a billion children under the age of 8 who typically get hand-me-downs phones from their parents. And people in 3rd world countries. And old people.
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- aaron695 3y ago
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That was my gut impulse, too. But then I realized that I've got three laptops. One for personal use, and 2 for jobs. And I think I have my previous two phones in a drawer.

xboxnolifes 3y ago
Those previous, now unused, devices didn't become waste in 2022. They became waste when you stopped using them and don't end up ever re-using them.
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  Yes, that addition was a side-response to the linked article.

mb7733 3y ago

Ironic comment considering world population is 8 billion

rcstank 3y ago
Not too ironic considering many are too young to have phones, or too poor to have them.
cjensen 3y ago
Fair.
- kurthr 3y ago
  I'm gonna support your point. I'm not buying that 3x more phones were trashed as sold. New cell phone sales are under 2B/year. Industry hoped they would continue rising after 2016, but they've plateaued around 1.8B. Of those about 200M are still flip/dumb phones. Ownership time (in the pipeline) is increasing not falling. I don't believe 5.3B became waste unless many B people suddenly decided to do without (in 2022). That seems unlikely unless it just some random definition of watste. Sure there might even be (8-9 years of production) 16B phones laying around somewhere outside of landfill so why did they become get trashed in '22? Can we blame 3G? https://www.sellcell.com/how-many-mobile-phones-are-sold-each-year/ https://www.sellcell.com/how-many-mobile-phones-are-sold-eac...
phire 3y ago
Still, an average of one brand new phone per person every 18 months seems very high. Don't forget that includes almost a billion children under the age of 8 who typically get hand-me-downs phones from their parents. And people in 3rd world countries. And old people.
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aaron695 3y ago
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